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| coached him in the U7s at tad. local boy. couldn't meet a nice, more grounded bloke.
didn't wanted to leave. cellino walked on to the pitch in training and told him he was off to Bournemouth. if he didn't go he'd be stuck in the reserves and he'd never play for leeds again
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| We could always bring in an out of contract midfielder.
I read yesterday the names of 3 very experienced midfielders who could do a job for us.
Trouble is old age is creeping up and I can`t remember the names!
One played for Arsenal and that`s all I remember
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| coquelin. others were besic and kouyate. I wouldn't touch any of them
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| Quote ="tad rhino"coquelin. others were besic and kouyate. I wouldn't touch any of them'"
Yes that`s the 3 thanks Tad.
I can`t recall seeing them but thought their pedigree sounded good.
Would you look to bring anyone in Tad or go with what we have?
Personally think Rothwell will get the nod tonight with Tanaka coming on later in the game.
Also think Byram for Firpo.
2 games in 4 days when carrying injuries is not ideal.
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| don't remember besic. we are OK for midfielders it's centre half's. ampedu and wober out mean we are down to 2.
I think tanaka starts tonight
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| Yeah its the centre back thats a problem here... if rodon or pascal get injured we're in big trouble. There were a fair few calls in the offseason to bring in a centre half but the club decided against it.. could backfire. Hopefully the young kid Debayo is decent
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| we have 4 though. Pascal, rodon, wober and ampedu. didn't need another. just how things pan out
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| Don't think that's enough mate with how the championship is, 2 games a week most weeks plus Wober is quite volatile. I think we were gambling on Ampadu staying fit all season like he did last year.
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| Debayo is decent but still a bit raw.
Said we should have kept Cresswell lol.
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| most teams have 4 centre backs. cresswell wanted to go so fine
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| absolutely no idea how we are losing this one. I will say the standard of refereeing in the championship is appalling. some shocking challenges going unpunished
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| rest my case.
ref and assistant have a clear view of the most blatant penalty.
and missed it!
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| good point but no luck at all. blatant penalty missed and numerous deflections in the Norwich box all fell the home sides way.
having said that our final ball was shocking. Rothwell was impressive tonight
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| Probably a point gained overall. The subs killed all the momentum
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| they did yes.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"good point but no luck at all. blatant penalty missed and numerous deflections in the Norwich box all fell the home sides way.
having said that our final ball was shocking. Rothwell was impressive tonight'"
Yes my thoughts too. Given the disruption and injuries away against a team who are good at home that’s a good point. I’d take a point Friday too. Fingers crossed Gruev not out long.. I just pray injuries won’t cost us this season..
That’s 2 blatant pens now we’ve not been given which would have won us the game (Burnley the other which I think we’d have gone on to win if got) refs are shocking at this level
Farke got some criticism on socials tonight for his subs but I can’t see what else he could do. He needed to wrap gnonto and Ramazanni in cotton wool, the are our only hope for goals at present and are vital for Friday
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| Quote ="Jack Burton"Probably a point gained overall. The subs killed all the momentum'"
We all have the benefit of hindsight, but I would have been tempted to maybe just pull Joseph for Bamford and let the rest play the game out. We were looking the most likely team to win it and Piroe especially gave the ball away time and time again putting us under pressure. He showed in his cameo why he should never be near the starting line up. The ref was all over the place with his decision making and that didn’t help us. I thought we looked better with Rothwell on for Gruev, more forward thinking and more penetration. We’re still not getting past teams down the flanks which limits us offensively, and to go nearly 160 corners without scoring is a joke really. If we find too many ways to not score goals it’s gonna make it difficult for us. A point’s not a disaster, but Friday’s result will give it more context.
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| In the end I was happy with a point as either team could have snatched it.
Negatives for me Meslier who I thought should have saved the penalty, Struijk always has one lapse in concentration and the ref who missed the foul on Gnonto in the box and let some challenges by Norwich go unpunished.
I messaged my mate to say as soon as we went down to 10 men there was no way we were going to win it.
He replied that we didn`t have anyone sent off.
To which I replied I know, we brought Bamford on!
Positives Tanaka and Rothwell but neither are holding midfielders.
Gnonto who was good but also made some wrong choices and Ramazani who took his goal well.
Sunderland Friday will be a lot tougher and a point would be a bonus.
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| Quote ="chapylad"
Positives Tanaka and Rothwell but neither are holding midfielders..'"
You never want players to get injured but this new combination may work out well for us. I often thought Gruev and Ampadu held us back offensively, with two more forward thinking players it could benefit the team. Time will tell. Tanaka looks like he’s gonna play more of the holding role, and Rothwell looks like he can deliver a dead ball pretty well which is something we’ve lacked. If I was Farke I’d be getting my wallet out though and saying to Tanaka, “get yourself down to Lillywhites and buy some Stylo Matchmakers with proper studs in son”. He looked like he was playing in ten pin bowling shoes.
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| no way should meslier have saved the penalty.
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| Quote ="leeds owl"You never want players to get injured but this new combination may work out well for us. I often thought Gruev and Ampadu held us back offensively, with two more forward thinking players it could benefit the team. Time will tell. Tanaka looks like he’s gonna play more of the holding role, and Rothwell looks like he can deliver a dead ball pretty well which is something we’ve lacked. If I was Farke I’d be getting my wallet out though and saying to Tanaka, “get yourself down to Lillywhites and buy some Stylo Matchmakers with proper studs in son”. He looked like he was playing in ten pin bowling shoes.'"
Those minutes for both last night will have done them the world of good. Rothwell grew into the game and like you say gives us a goal threat from outside the box and a better set piece threat, however neither are known for their defensive ability which will be tested on Friday... Farke will have to come up with a plan.
Fixture list not been kind to Leeds this week, Sheff u and Sunderland both have back to back home games. At least there's an international break coming up after Friday so some players can rest. If i were Leeds i'd be pretending there's one or two not fit enough to travel..
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| Quote ="leeds owl"You never want players to get injured but this new combination may work out well for us. I often thought Gruev and Ampadu held us back offensively, with two more forward thinking players it could benefit the team. Time will tell. Tanaka looks like he’s gonna play more of the holding role, and Rothwell looks like he can deliver a dead ball pretty well which is something we’ve lacked. If I was Farke I’d be getting my wallet out though and saying to Tanaka, “get yourself down to Lillywhites and buy some Stylo Matchmakers with proper studs in son”. He looked like he was playing in ten pin bowling shoes.'"
Yes I agree to some extent re Rothwell and Tanaka as both look very good and Ampadu/Gruev can be too defensive at times.
Personally I would like to see Ampadu/Tanaka or Gruev/Rothwell on the pitch together when all are fit.
My concern is that I don`t have too much confidence in our back 4 and both Ampadu/Gruev had to spend more time covering for them which I don`t think Tanaka.Rothwell are as good at.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"no way should meslier have saved the penalty.'"
Personal opinions Tad but he didn`t even move and the ball was only a yard to his left.
If he guesses that way he saves it but he stood still.
Anyway whatever we think Norwich scored
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| thing is, and I played as a keeper. it was too hard and more importantly too close. sounds daft but it's easier to react if it isn't as close and you can reach out rather than down
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| It looked a poor attempt of a save to me and I know a few other people saying the same but I’m no expert on the matter. If we do go up he needs replacing with much better but that’s for another day. His distribution is so inconsistent too
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