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| Quote ="gulfcoast_highwayman"Watching Leeds-v-Hull FC from 2009 I was surprised by a couple of things. Firstly, Calderwood playing for the black & whites. I'd forgotten that part of his career entirely.
And secondly, how early the South Stand starting being in trouble, as portions of it were already taped off at that stage. I'd have put it a couple of years later than that.'"
If I remember didn’t they tape it off for a few years whilst trying to get planning permission to rebuild. It was denied so they made some repairs but still had to reduce capacity after that.
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| Loved rewatching the finale of Castleford's greatest ever season last night. Danny Magnificent.
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| I've just watched all the grand finals and now I'm very appreciative of the unsung heroes who made great contributions to these wins. I mean even Walters weve all gone on about him ,but he was on hand in position to score 15 minutes from the end to win by 2 points
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"I've just watched all the grand finals and now I'm very appreciative of the unsung heroes who made great contributions to these wins. I mean even Walters weve all gone on about him ,but he was on hand in position to score 15 minutes from the end to win by 2 points'"
Only player in the clubs history to score a treble sealing try.
Eric Harris, Lewis Jones and John Holmes never did that.
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| Just watching the 2009 GF and loving the inconsistency in the commentary - Saints try it looks pretty clear that Eastmond knocks on into Donald before scoring "I think you've got to give benefit of the doubt to the attack." Fast forward to our last try and it's very tight as to whether Lee Smith is onside "You can't give benefit of the doubt on such an important decision."
11 years later, I know the result, I know the commentary doesn't matter but it still winds me up. God I miss sport.
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| Quote ="Him"It is bad isn’t it! The current lot are bad because there’s too many of them chipping in like they’re blokes in a pub.
Stevo was just talking nonsense and making everything out to be a massive deal.'"
You could literally take any one of Stevo's match commentaries and paste it onto the soundtrack of any game and you would not be able to tell. The mark of a true master of his art.
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| Quote ="DHM"You could literally take any one of Stevo's match commentaries and paste it onto the soundtrack of any game and you would not be able to tell. The mark of a true master of his art.'" you could prob try that watching online
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| Stevo added some excitement at least. Prefer him to the current lot.....
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| Agree. Im a RL fan and i cant watch the current setup on Sky so how does a guy down south with no real RL interest cope?
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| Quote ="Shabino"Stevo added some excitement at least. Prefer him to the current lot.....'"
Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"Agree. Im a RL fan and i cant watch the current setup on Sky so how does a guy down south with no real RL interest cope?'"
The NRL has had some fantastic commentators over the years and when you watched their live TV games,
Ray Rabbits Warren was the best commentator ever IMO,He really got you interested and brought the game to life.
His State of Origin and Grand final offerings were amazing
Vossy is still doing a great job commentating currently in the NRL and is so much better than anyone we have had commentating over here
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| In all honesty I'm not really that bothered about the commentating, I just like watching the games and don't notice what's being said too much as I'm doing my own analysis......
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| Whoever mentioned upthread about Stevo blowing up any slight error or miss by the ref wasn't kidding. Plays later he still rattles on.
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| Full games? PAH!
Nothing compared to Yesterday's classic Emmerdale episodes featuring Martin Offiah and Gary Connolly in exciting amateur action
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| watched the 1989 NY day game against Oldham
First game for Hugh Wadell against his old club and they had a contract out on his head, first one to take it off gets a bonus.
The quality of the recording is awful and the game/reffing isn't much better. Those wishing for the good old days take a good, long, hard look at the differences between the games of then and now. Those that think the skill levels are diminished are deluding themselves. Different yes but inferior, definately not
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| Quote ="LeedsLurch"watched the 1989 NY day game against Oldham
First game for Hugh Wadell against his old club and they had a contract out on his head, first one to take it off gets a bonus.
The quality of the recording is awful and the game/reffing isn't much better. Those wishing for the good old days take a good, long, hard look at the differences between the games of then and now. Those that think the skill levels are diminished are deluding themselves. Different yes but inferior, definately not'"
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| Quote ="LeedsLurch"watched the 1989 NY day game against Oldham
First game for Hugh Wadell against his old club and they had a contract out on his head, first one to take it off gets a bonus.
The quality of the recording is awful and the game/reffing isn't much better. Those wishing for the good old days take a good, long, hard look at the differences between the games of then and now. Those that think the skill levels are diminished are deluding themselves. Different yes but inferior, definately not'"
That was Ford's debut IIRC. Also the only good game Backo had for us? Maybe the Yorks Cup Semi as well.
The thing I enjoy most about watching these old games is the lack of drum and trumpet in the South Stand. Made for a much better atmosphere.
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| Quote ="The Biffs Back"The NRL has had some fantastic commentators over the years and when you watched their live TV games,
Ray Rabbits Warren was the best commentator ever IMO,He really got you interested and brought the game to life.
His State of Origin and Grand final offerings were amazing
Vossy is still doing a great job commentating currently in the NRL and is so much better than anyone we have had commentating over here'"
Steve Blocker Roach shouting "Where the f*** did that go?" after a stray pass straight into touch!
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| Quote ="LeedsLurch"watched the 1989 NY day game against Oldham
First game for Hugh Wadell against his old club and they had a contract out on his head, first one to take it off gets a bonus.
The quality of the recording is awful and the game/reffing isn't much better. Those wishing for the good old days take a good, long, hard look at the differences between the games of then and now. Those that think the skill levels are diminished are deluding themselves. Different yes but inferior, definately not'"
They were all still basically amateurs back then training twice a week and working another job. The transformation during the next 10 years was dramatic. Almost as dramatic as the fall off in the last few years.
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| Watching these games from late 90s to the mid to late 2000s what strikes me is hoe Harris’ time in Union seemed to change him, he was for Leeds he was one of the most naturally gifted RL players of his generation, then just seemed to be a bit part player on his return at Bradford - a real shame really
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| Quote ="christopher"Watching these games from late 90s to the mid to late 2000s what strikes me is hoe Harris’ time in Union seemed to change him, he was for Leeds he was one of the most naturally gifted RL players of his generation, then just seemed to be a bit part player on his return at Bradford - a real shame really'"
It would be interesting to see how many times he touched the ball on average in a league compared to Union. My feeling is that half backs and playmakers don't transition well from League to Union because too much comes off 9. If you've got pace and power then it's different. Jason Robinson was just a wind up toy, put the ball in his hands and off he went. Perfect for either code.
Different type of fitness as well, you don't get the physical battering in Union. I guess he lost that perpetual motion game he had at Leeds. You watch him back then and he never stopped moving, he carried the ball in a lot as well, so much balance. But he got the ball when he wanted it, you can't do that so much in Union because all the fat boys get in the way.
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When I started watching league there were still a few guys in the Leeds team who had been coached by Francis. Neil Hague was one and he had a remarkable fitness record, hardly ever missing games though injury. He credited that to the training regime Roy Francis had in place early on in his career.
I think a lot of older fans know very well who he is and he is rightly revered.
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When I started watching league there were still a few guys in the Leeds team who had been coached by Francis. Neil Hague was one and he had a remarkable fitness record, hardly ever missing games though injury. He credited that to the training regime Roy Francis had in place early on in his career.
I think a lot of older fans know very well who he is and he is rightly revered.
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| Quote ="The Biffs Back"The NRL has had some fantastic commentators over the years and when you watched their live TV games,
Ray Rabbits Warren was the best commentator ever IMO'"
i agree. Warren probably the best for his longevity and smoothness a bit like martin tyler from the football over here but i loved darryl eastlake who did all the aussie tests and state of origin games 80s and early 90s him of henderson gill 'doing a bit of a boogie!' fame had some great catch phrases and his tone was quality. of today i like vossy.
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| Quote ="DHM"It would be interesting to see how many times he touched the ball on average in a league compared to Union. My feeling is that half backs and playmakers don't transition well from League to Union because too much comes off 9. If you've got pace and power then it's different. Jason Robinson was just a wind up toy, put the ball in his hands and off he went. Perfect for either code.
Different type of fitness as well, you don't get the physical battering in Union. I guess he lost that perpetual motion game he had at Leeds. You watch him back then and he never stopped moving, he carried the ball in a lot as well, so much balance. But he got the ball when he wanted it, you can't do that so much in Union because all the fat boys get in the way.'"
Im no Union fan but its a totally different sport to league and you cant really compare the two sports. You potentially only have the ball for 1 tackle in Union you arent guaranteed 6 if you dont drop it. League is a game of possession and Union a game of territory.
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| Quote ="christopher"Watching these games from late 90s to the mid to late 2000s what strikes me is hoe Harris’ time in Union seemed to change him, he was for Leeds he was one of the most naturally gifted RL players of his generation, then just seemed to be a bit part player on his return at Bradford - a real shame really'"
Iestyn was such a natural player, but not a natural athlete, speed off the mark and body swerve, but Lacked real pace over anything above 30-40 meters, Think he had to work really hard on his fitness and weight in his first spell in league, he put a bit of weight on in union and lost some fitness, maybe only 5-10kg and lost 10% fitness, but that was enough to lose his impact. Stayed in league he would have been hall of fame.
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