That maybe so..... But would you rather lose any of Hardaker, Watkins, Sini, McGuire, Cuthbo or JP in front of Aiton.

I think those listed are more vital to us winning trophies. It's a big loss but not as big as those I mentioned.

In our game you can't expect to have everyone fit.

We are lucky that our go to plan B is a proven match winner and a champion in the big games.

Our plan C is Sini to Hooker. We could even use Ward (Stevie).

I'm not saying he is more or less valuable than others , just that he is one of the few that really gets our forwards going.

Burrow is a good player with some intelligent support play and good utility value .He just isn't a starting Hooker. Plan C for me with a few others helping out at the PtB to save Sinny from being knackered.

Ward was an outstanding stand-off for the juniors a couple of years ago. I know most talented kids play stand-off at junior level (Ablett and Moon too), but if Sinfield shifts to hooker, that's what I'd be tempted to do, for the league if not for Wembley.

Really? In front of Sinfield and McGuire?

Sinfield did a lot of good work out of dummy half, moving him there and putting Burrow in the halves would be the best option IMO.

If Aiton is 8 weeks we should see him play again.

Must be longer if it's a break ?

What I said was that BJB was better on attack which he was at the time. Haraker has improved his attack since then but despite doing so many good things still shows a lack of class in not passing when he should as in his disallowed try tonight or perhaps he is just greedy Either way it is a flaw which you choose to overlook.

Being sheep like doesn't make you right. Aiton has played very well this season but his success is overrated by many as he has benefited from the form and lines of running of his teammates no doubt worked out on the training field.

Burrow of course will not make the same number of tackles but Leeds have worked out how to overcome this and his unique attacking skills make up for this. You may not have noticed but Burrow was effective when he came on and showed he is equally capable of making a switch pass from acting half so fitting in with the game plan of the coach.

Aiton will be missed and it will be interesting to see by how much as I think the rest of the pack will continue in the same style and Burrow will play his part.

Or maybe 4, I'm not into all this doom and gloom.

There was a massive drop in what Burrow brought to the team last night and what Aiton was doing. You would have to be incredibly biased not to see that. He contributed, but his work at dummy half is a massive climb down on what Aiton was bringing.

I was sat in a bar in Cyprus, with Wigan, Warrington, Cas, Leigh, and a Halifax fan, watching that game. They were amazed at how good Leeds were. But the Wigan and Saints fans, in their words "we're so p15sed off at how damn good Hardaker is". Further saying "he is so far ahead of every fullback in England, he should be in the NRL, as he would walk into most sides there". When I told him that a couple fans were questioning him even being in the top five, they burst out with laughter, true story. When I told them one numpty actually wanted rid of him and keeping BJB, one of them came very close to pi5s1ng his pants. When he settled down he said, we all have fans like that, who don't have a clue.

You didn't by the way only mention his attack, you only started to change that one this season when it was highlighted consistently weekly how poor your judgement was. As the season has progressed he has shown just how good he is attacking wise and passing. Like the pass for Burrow's try when he could have scored himself.

It was so good to watch a match with oppossition teams all wanting you to lose, except the Leigh one funny enough, and then to listen to them gushing about us after. And seriously I mean gushing about us, they were just gobsmacked.

still waiting for you to name the three fullbacks you claim are better than hardaker. something you keep 'forgetting'to do

Ian Wilkinson
Gary Spencer
Richie Spedding

i'll give you spedding

I was one who suggested there were FB better than him in some aspects of the game - the only one who has eclipsed him in games against Leeds is Bowen. There isn't a better all round FB in SL at the moment. He will never make a half back, like Tomkins he doesn't possess the skill sets for that role.

Hardaker can break a line

Bowen can break a big sweat

He didn't need to break a sweat against us just use his head and skill set - brain beats brawn everytime.



What is sad is Bowen has nowhere near the influence against other sides

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Where as Hardaker has been brilliant against most sides this season

Bowen has barely set anything alight. Think he would struggle to alight a fart in a lift

Loz I agree he only seems to turn up against us - bizarre.

Lovely to see Wigan make such a successful signing

Despite everything they are still only two points behind us and have beaten us the last two times we have played them. If we play like we did last night it will not be a contest. The Giants bottled what should have been an easy win on Thursday

.... And still keeps quiet when it's brought up again. Classic rlfans

Translation: I've been found out

Though there'll now be this reply "what I actually meant [iat the time was...[/i"

Everyone on here has been proved wrong at some point - shame their acceptance of their failings isn't quite as robust as that they expect of others?