Agree

Absolutely. Plus
One of their players stick out an arm or leg and you get the ball back, they knock on , they lose control and push ball to their try line and maybe you force a drop out
or god forbid someone backs up and you may SCORE.

Mate im literally just saying tap it 5 yards n let them drop on it. Dont see point of running in and taking the tackle and handing it over as we are. May as well make them use a tackle rather than handing it over.

Both are negative plays by the way.

Last night was awful to watch and a game to forget. Just hope it was a one off and look forward to a much better performance next week.
I can't get mad after a single game, fingers crossed last night's shambles doesn't turn into a trend

Also on a positive note I thought Mellor was much better last night than he has shown so far, under the circumstances at least. Put some great hits in and seemed solid moving forward too. Hard to find many more positives from that game

keith senir agrees with that and zak

Completely get the point, they have used 1 tackle and have only 4 carries before a kick. They are under pressure and in effect you need to make 1 tackle less per set and save energy.

I wonder if after nearly losing the cup final from Williams going 90 yards and the Johnstone try v wakey, we have got too scared of a break away try.

They should be practicing using Walters for kicks landing 10-15 in from touch on a half backs head.

HKR only had 1 half back and his kicking was very good. For mine smith is Still a top coach

I thought Mellor was better last night as you say ran harder..Broadbent showed some good movement at centre and for mine should stay there.

one of the commentators this week said how half backs are continuously practising to sections of the field marked out with cones --- students must have nicked our cones

Just watching the highlights, Handley and T Briscoes defensive efforts, or lack of, for some of them trys were pathetic.

Agree

“Square pegs, round holes” comment by Agar speaks volumes for me.

Quote from Agar

“ I thought we looked like a team that had been thrown together this afternoon."

So exactly who is throwing that shambolic group together?

Ah yes that would be you Agar

Taxi for Agar!

more knee jerking

I really dont like it when a coach points the finger squarely at the players whist at the same time doesnt mention mistakes with coaching and coaching decisions at all. One, because inevitably there will always be improvement to address in the coaching team and two, because by putting his hand up to mistakes too it can have a positive outcome of further bringing the group together and strengthening trust.

Agar's doing what he can with what he has imo.
Pack's mainly ok when a reasonable number are fit.
Spine isn't that of a top 3 side whoever's fit. No control at end of sets means that we both do more tackling than we need while simultaneously score fewer points than our field position suggests we should. Once results pick up - and I reckon they will - I can see us hitting the sort of heights Hull FC fans have experienced unless further changes are made to the players rota.

Leadership, that’s what you are describing. Admitting mistakes and showing vulnerability can be very powerful for the group.

I think he did get the team selection wrong but that team should have been more than capable of beating HKR. The half's were awful Myler's only real contribution was his defence. Eastmond is at this moment a total passenger. It will be interesting to see what team Agar selects for Huddersfield.

Absolutely, sadly lacking in not just coaching; teaching, parenting, business, never look inwards but happily point the finger completely missing the opportunity to connect.

Absolutely they should have been. My feelings on this are much wider in the game, I think theres some pretty average (over) coaching that lacks a dynamic approach that doesnt set players up to be their best.

Yet again on this site the thought control police are trying to stop comment. BASICALLY THE TOTAL REASON WHY THIS SITE IS SO LOW ON TRAFFIC

Well said mate. If loosing 4 of first 5, out of cup, thrashed by a pretty poor team is knee
Jerking then god help us....!

Bobbsy do you not think the effort shown, with badly depleted teams, against Cas, Saints and Wigan was pretty decent? Fridays performance against KRnt wasnt acceptable i think we would all agree on that including the coaching staff and players but to be calling for the coach's head when hes done a pretty solid job in a short space of time after taking over a complete mess does seem a bit knee jerk in truth.

I do believe we are in a much healthier position than when he took over. We are still without some big players in Gale and Tetevano who should both return shortly. Wouldnt you agree its too early to panic?

There we go. Another buzz word on here 'panic'. To critisize and look to debate possible ways of improvement on here is 'panic'. Again kills debate......

What word should be used to call for the sacking of a coach after 1 bad performance? I was also referring to it as the club shouldnt panic not the poster.

It only kills a debate if the person calling for the sacking has zero response back surely? I ask again, but to you this time, did you not find the effort shown by badly depleted teams against Cas, Saints and Wigan as acceptable?