I was more referring to the constant swapping of ABlett, Watkins and Gibson.

We should have stuck with 1 of them

Probably not, although a defensive line that often includes McGuire & Burrow becomes even more lightweight if you throw smith into the equation. Much prefer him at FB.

Actually I'd have said Godden was quick over 20 to 30 metres but didn't have a cruising speed. It's the first burst of pace that is important in a centre.

People didn't mention the weakness of the defensive line when Hall was out and Smith was in it last season. Size isn't evrything. All sides have smaller players, and I'd say the techniques of Burrow & McGuire makes them better befensively than most half backs in the country.

I wouldn't have said pace was his best asset he was just an all round complete centre who didn't necessarily need space to beat a man or create space for his winger,

OK then, I will use another example of a his class centre who had virtually zero pace - David Stephenson.

Was going to mention him in the thread earlier, along with godden & innes etc, a wingers dream.

Craig Izzard's Aussie career, certainly before his all too short stint here and to an extent afterwards, was nowt to write home about.

And on the flip side, I'd say Mark Carroll was one of the biggest flops over here, yet went on to win more rep honours when he went back to Aus.

I agree Stevo was a class act and regularly looked like he was running in treacle. IMO, pace was less important then as player fitness levels were lower (most were part time) and the defensive organisation meant that there were regularly gaps on the outside as (very) slow players went there for a rest.

Just to balance the argument a little I don't believe that pace is the be-all-and-end-all for a centre, but without it he has to have a very strong skill set in all other aspects.

"Spud" Carroll, certainly had all the skills of Mr Potato Head. Lord was he crap....

I agree. I think he could be a sucess there. Its no guaruntee, but I think he should be given a fair shot at it.

Mark Laurie & Tony Currie, relatively unknown during their first stint, came back internationals.

Godden was over six foot and had a real turn of pace - what was suprising when he was over for the CC reunion he did not look any different

Never in a million years was he over 6ft



He was one class act though

He must have carried Willie Carsons box to stand on.

He was (and probably still is) 5 feet 10.

Do you reckon Eccelshill rhino is a heightist. From his view of tonight's game he must have had a tall Brad Godden standing in front of him

He hadn't changed when he was over and he hadn't grown to 6 foot. I spoke to him for a whee while at the dinner and I am taller.

SOLIOLA injured 1 minute into this weeks roosters game, they think knee ligament damage

Oh dear. I hope Saints have paid for him up front.

dont be so bitter!! buderus got injuried afte we signed him and he's come good!! the kid is only 22 he has a lot of good rugby in him

You appear to have me confused with someone you can tell what to do.

That's despite me not being bitter in the slightest. Don't assume! You make an ass of u and me just in this case it's only u.



Relevance to my post?

good work perp good work!!

oh and tansey scored his first (and roosters only) try, if anyone's interested

glad he's having a go!!