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| difficult when half the team don't even train after the international break.i was on a flight so missed the game so can't comment. Big few weeks coming up though
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| It was always going to be difficult with so many players on international duty. Burnley came with a plan to sit back and wait for their chance and it worked for them, but we really should have won. We had 2 big chances in the first half and should have had a penalty, definitely not a bad performance, but if you don't take your chances, it doesn't matter how you play.
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| Saw the first 30 mins and then listened to the rest while travelling. Based on the 30mins I saw, we are still a team that lacks pace offensively. We are also lacking someone carrying the ball forwards through the heart of midfield. If Ao is ready he needs game time and maybe the answer. Is it Farke’s decision to play inverted wingers ? If it is it may seem very fashionable but can kill any momentum with the player constantly checking back inside. Solomon was a prime example yesterday, checking back inside and then playing tippy tappy with Firpo, Aaronson etc instead of getting down the line. He doesn’t look overly fast neither. Early days, but we don’t want last seasons problems manifesting themselves with a different set of players.
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| Definitely not a bad performance we were by far the better team but lacked cohesion. That will come no doubt but we do lack some class centrally at the moment particularly in midfield. The good thing is it’s looking tight between the fancied teams and Sunderland lost so we’ve got time to gel. Sheff U look very solid to me and will be right up there. Parker looks a canny manager at this level too.
I know it’s an easy thing to say but a Hamer or similar gets us a 1-0 there.. we’ve very little goal threat from outside the area and midfield with that starting 11. I believe Tanaka is known to carry a threat as is Rothwell so maybe they need more game time..
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| Pretty much my thoughts Trebor but we must also remember Burnley had what 7 players missing from that line up.
Maybe Tenako and Rothwell alongside Ampadu in a 3 man midfield would give us more offensive options.
Do we use 2 defensive midfielders due to our defence being flaky?
I also much prefer to see right footed wingers on the right and left footed wingers on the left.
Get the ball in the box rather than this fancy one touch stuff that rarely works.
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| Quote ="chapylad"
I also much prefer to see right footed wingers on the right and left footed wingers on the left.
Get the ball in the box rather than this fancy one touch stuff that rarely works.'"
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| A game we should have won. Poor second half, thought we got the subs wrong, shouldn’t have taken Aaronson off, as we lost all energy, don’t think Rothwell was the right choice to come on either.
Would have like to have seen Tanaka and Ramazani on sooner
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| Solomon is a left footer on the left. look at his goal created for joseph v hull. granted he does come inside too much. for me it's more the no 9 the issue
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| Quote ="leedsbarmyarmy"A game we should have won. Poor second half, thought we got the subs wrong, shouldn’t have taken Aaronson off, as we lost all energy, don’t think Rothwell was the right choice to come on either.
Would have like to have seen Tanaka and Ramazani on sooner'"
Aaronson was flagging he’d not been back for USA duty long. Ramazsni deffo should have come on earlier. We seemed to lose all shape after he made the subs which is a common theme with Farke
A key 3 games coming up that we should get some good points from. It’s then 3 very tough games with Sunderland away Sheff U at home and Watford at home.
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| Quote ="leeds owl"Saw the first 30 mins and then listened to the rest while travelling. Based on the 30mins I saw, we are still a team that lacks pace offensively. We are also lacking someone carrying the ball forwards through the heart of midfield. If the Jap is ready he needs game time and maybe the answer. Is it Farke’s decision to play inverted wingers ? If it is it may seem very fashionable but can kill any momentum with the player constantly checking back inside. Solomon was a prime example yesterday, checking back inside and then playing tippy tappy with Firpo, Aaronson etc instead of getting down the line. He doesn’t look overly fast neither. Early days, but we don’t want last seasons problems manifesting themselves with a different set of players.'"
The "Jap"? Is this the 1970's? Truly no need for such a use of this type of language. It's at best clunky and there good grounds to suggest racist. Goodness me.
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| if the worst is clunky is not bad then is it?
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Quote ="tad rhino"if the worst is clunky is not bad then is it?'" Yes you're right, I mistyped in my ire. At best it's clunky it should read but actually it isn't clunky, it's a racist term and has no place on here. Jamie Vardy would agree. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-l ... e-37477703
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| as you say disgracful and racist.
anytime I see the word Brit describing British people I'm going to get very offended from now on
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| Quote ="tad rhino"as you say disgracful and racist.
anytime I see the word Brit describing British people I'm going to get very offended from now on'" )
Perhaps take the time to research the negative connotations as explained in the article I posted above. It is not the simple shortening of the word, it is the huge negative slur used in the second world war and has no place on here or anywhere. I presume then by your logic you are comfortable abbreviating the word Pakistani? Can you not see the weaponised awful intentions of these words? How are we to proceed and grow if we don't call out this stuff and change our behaviour?
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| I hear the term used multiple times every day, by Pakistanis taking the out of each other. obviously not that offensive to them but I guess you're someone who's always offended by something
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| Now now lads let’s leave it there.
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| Some of the commentators refer to Solomon as the Israeli signed from Spurs.
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| Quote ="Trebor1"Now now lads let’s leave it there.'" Ok lets leave it there. The systemic response when folk are pulled up on using such language. Believe what you want or remain in your bubble if you like but this language is utterly appalling and the continued privilege of simply explaining it away by saying it is an "ok shortened version" or suggesting clunkiness or that I am somehow overreacting shows we have not really come very far at all. Nobody, NOBODY, should be using such terms.
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| Quote ="chapylad"Some of the commentators refer to Solomon as the Israeli signed from Spurs.'" I again suggest you read the article I posted about Jamie Vardy and the historical context. Japanese lad is ok I suppose but I'd probably just call him by his actual name ideally. It's pretty easy.
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| Quote ="fuzzylogic222"Ok lets leave it there. The systemic response when folk are pulled up on using such language. Believe what you want or remain in your bubble if you like but this language is utterly appalling and the continued privilege of simply explaining it away by saying it is an "ok shortened version" or suggesting clunkiness or that I am somehow overreacting shows we have not really come very far at all. Nobody, NOBODY, should be using such terms.'"
You’ve not pulled me up on anything? Nothing to do with me bud I’m just trying to calm matters.
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| Quote ="Trebor1"You’ve not pulled me up on anything? Nothing to do with me bud I’m just trying to calm matters.'" Yes I can see that, sorry I am newish to commenting and totally accept that,
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| Anyway looking ahead… it’s a must win game this weekend, already 5 behind top. Need to win next 3 really as tough run coming up in October. Could make or break even this early
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| Quote ="fuzzylogic222"Yes I can see that, sorry I am newish to commenting and totally accept that,'"
Not a problem bud.
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| Trebor is correct - this is a crucial period.
If you read between the lines promotion needs to happen this season or it will be catastrophic for the club.
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| Interesting take on Kinnear's chat with Square Ball by Simon Rix - seems Angus' replies don't pass the Rix rigour test!!
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