I think if let them get a few quick scores in and let them march us down the field every set it will be a much harder game than it should be

I can really see us losing this.
This is the ideal game for Wakey and a nightmare game for us.
Like it or not, we are one of the bottom 4 teams in the league.
We've lost twice to Cas, who are dreadful.
And we have a boat load of injuries.
I really fear the worst.
Obviously hope I'm wrong.

attitude decides who wins this.
and tactics. we play passive wakey win. we go aggressive we win.

With 13 games left, we are 3 wins outside the playoffs. That means to catch Wigan and Saints we have to win 3 more than them over 13 games. It’s not going to happen. Salford and Leigh are 4 wins ahead of us.

This season is yet another of serious underachievement and disappointment.

Season was over after CC exit to be fair. All about next year already. Sad state of affairs, but at least we’re used to it!

Pretty much agree. It'd take something similar to last season's finish which was pretty miraculous to even manage the once. Do it twice and you'd have to think we're the real deal despite all the current evidence. Do I see it happening? Heart says yes...

Super League clubs just do not have the squad strength in depth to cover for serious injuries to key players beyond a point. We are past that point and you cannot just judge results based on what you think we should be doing when we have Tetevano, Lisone, Holroyd, Newman, Fusitu’a etc all injured

no. but you can be organised, have a structure, have a game plan if simplistic.
we look like a pub team thrown together last minute

Doesn’t matter what structure or game plan you have in mind if we have no decent halves and players keep dropping the ball / passing forward / jumping the line bc they aren’t good enough at this level.

I just think some on here need to get real and understand that we probably have as much salary sat in the stands as Wakey have on the pitch.

Taxi for smith. No “give him cap space off season” we need a change proven failure 1 win in 7, 1 win in 6 in league.

Simply not good enough. Also now JJB on the board suspect the trigger will/ needs to be pulled.

as head of diversity what coach would jjb be picking

man with made up job to decide next coach?
as much faith in jjb to get it right as I do hetherington

This kind of logic totally does my head in.

A) smith signed some of those players that aren’t good enough
B) if professionals keep making the same basic errors, it’s likely the coaching input is causing this. Otherwise, when teams do well is that just players doing good things and the coach isn’t responsible. By your logic, what’s the point in a coach at all, if they are just passive beings who don’t influence stuff.

A club that consistently over achieves every year is Salford. Ian Blease is their CEO. We need to bring him in to lead the rugby department to remove GH from the decision making. If Paul Rowley follows even better.

A big (or small, I really don't know) part of the problem maybe issues with a number of players feathers being ruffled? Been told they're not in the plans for next year and now finding themselves front and centre due to injuries? We're also having, or choosing, to play Walters and Tindall who now have zero skin in the game for this season. Shades of Wire last season?

I think there is something in this. Some unhappy players.But he’s recruited a worse set than we had last year including a group who are not SL standard which is abysmal. No confidence in who we may sign in future.

Danny McGuire is he ready to be head coach?

no. and I personally don't want an ex player

So honest question, Tad. Who? The days are long gone when you could source a first rate coach from the NRL. Most assist coaches turn their nose up. It's easy getting rid (as we have proved) but it's very difficult to appoint someone who is not viewed as a gamble.

Completely get that it's hard to recruit the right quality coach (it's hard to get the players too) but other teams have managed to get those decisions right.

Yes the player are not good enough but if its not the coaches job to get the best out of what's available then I don't know what his job is. RS has failed to do that more times this season than he has. If he was the right coach then we'd see much better regardless of many more wins, regardless of injuries. But the Performances are amateur at best.

IF we are going to change coach then Paul Rowley is the man

arthur, saints haven't done badly with their Australian coaches.

He's obvious but not available. I love watching his Salford team, but many posters on here hanker for a return to steady as you go pressure football. Rowley is a world away from that, in fact he and Smith seem to share many of the same coaching beliefs. He is however, the one I'd be keeping an eye on.

As was levelled at Powell last season. I'm not arguing that this is the sole reason, or even the major reason (though it may be, who knows?), but if a significant number have been told they aren't part of the plan, and those same players are now thrust into the team due to injuries (Walters and Tindall are two that we know of) then that would account, at least in part, for the "can't be bothered" attitude that is so clearly demonstrated most weeks. As happened at Wire.

A) he has a budget mate, and it wasn’t big at all bc we are contracted up the the plums with overpaid / past it dead wood. What would you have had him do?
B) come on. These players are mid twenties to early thirties you think a coach is responsible now for basic handling skills?
Of course the coach had a big impact but this squad simply isn’t good enough, and is ravaged by injury again.

Some if you lot just look at results and react. I’m not saying RS as a coach is the Messiah but we need to make far better decisions with recruitment and retention than we have seen for much longer than his tenure.