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| Quote ="Jonesy's a Legend"www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/24650021
looks like graham,mcillorum and hardaker all picked injuries up last weekend and havn't been selected in the 19'"
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| Quote ="The Eagle"I do have a problem with people going out for a drink in the run up to a big tournament.
The affects of alcohol on training up to 48 hours after consumption are well known and documented. Although not rocket scientists the players should know this too. '"
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| Quote ="Jonesy's a Legend"www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/24650021
looks like graham,mcillorum and hardaker all picked injuries up last weekend and havn't been selected in the 19'"
Looks like this is Steve M's stance and rightly so....it me the most important aspect in a coach and player relatioship is respect....if you show dis-respect to the team and coach like they did going for a drink then you should expect to deal with the consequences. |
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I wonder who Hocks roommate was? Surely he should have given him a kick to get him out of bed and down to training. If it were me (as either Hock or the roommate) I would have expected it.'"
While they where in south Africa his room mate was sam Tomkins, I don't know if they will have kept the same once back in this country though??? |
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| Quote ="DHM"Rebecca Addlington didn't drink for the two years prior to the London Olympics.'"
While Usain Bolt loaded up on KFCs. Not a recommended training technique.
Fact is, we don't know what Graham, Hardaker and McIlorum did, because the England RL set-up have refused to tell anyone, so we can't really judge whether the disciplinary sanctions were harsh, fair or whatever. There's an element of contempt there towards the people who have paid to see the game.
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Love him or hate him, Hock was our one forward with the ' x-factor ' who might have really scared the Aussies, with all due respect Farrell and Mossop just don't do it for me. Hopefully the Burgess trio will all have big games
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looks like graham,mcillorum and hardaker all picked injuries up last weekend and havn't been selected in the 19'"
Of them all Jammer was the only one you would consider 'nailed on' for his spot in the game. Lets hope they all heed the warning and front up against the convicts. I hope George and Tom break a jaw each and Burgess snr gets a hat-trick created by Sir Kev. |
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| Quote ="RAFLeaguer"I hope George and Tom break a jaw each.'"
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I'm not a big fan of McNamara but the way some on the VT are trying to put the blame on him for this is quite pathetic.
On the one hand they go on about respect and say he can't have the respect of his team if they didn't follow his booze ban.....yet saying he's wrong for dropping Graham for breaking it. Their main point being (in almost Hock style) "yeah but he's our BEST prop" as if players should be disciplined differently based on talent.
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The sad thing about this whole sorry affair, is certain so called professional sportsmen can't go a short while, without the need for alcohol.
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Quote ="El Diablo"Your wish is my command:
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/24650021
Not sure about describing SBW as a "New Zealand great" mind you.
Tremendous player, but failure to pick something and stick to it holds him back from being "a great" in my book. Certainly it's hard to describe a guy who I don't think has won a Test for the Kiwis and has only played 7 times a "great."
He may, of course, fix that over the next month. Then you can think about using the term.'" Those Burgess boys take Strength from one another ( not comparing to players left out ) but this is a boost for England in the psychological warfare stakes.
People talk about " players the Aussies fear " well there's three genuine contenders they don't like and have had the experience of being on the receiving end of week in and week out.
I would be surprised if any of them don't turn up , never really seen a poor game from them ( haven't seen all of their games mind....enough to be confident....Sam and his ill discipline games would go closest ) so I think you're hedging your bets here.....you only need two out of three to really rip it up and bring their A game to have dominance in phases imo.
As For Sonny Bill. He's certainly not a NZ Rugby league Great yet. He is from my suburb and went to School with my nephew. I'm in two minds about him. One thing there is no disputing he is a New Zealander , if he were a hint of anything else he would have accepted the overtures form New South Wales to play for them in the joke that is the rep footy merry go round.
Williams has all the gifts to have a shot at being one of the greats of NZ representative rugby league , he has the ultimate Pack to hunt with in this era , and he has no excuses.
If he goes down in History as a World Cup winner and plays to his dominant potential , he will be NZ's Dally Messenger , code swapping God.
One thing I will say about him , he has chosen to play for the title so that's a start on the NZ's best ever 17......he has to go a long way to catch up with Mark Graham , Dean Bell , Ruben Wiki and Stacey Jones. |
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Quote ="El Diablo"Your wish is my command:
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/24650021
Not sure about describing SBW as a "New Zealand great" mind you.
Tremendous player, but failure to pick something and stick to it holds him back from being "a great" in my book. Certainly it's hard to describe a guy who I don't think has won a Test for the Kiwis and has only played 7 times a "great."
He may, of course, fix that over the next month. Then you can think about using the term.'" Those Burgess boys take Strength from one another ( not comparing to players left out ) but this is a boost for England in the psychological warfare stakes.
People talk about " players the Aussies fear " well there's three genuine contenders they don't like and have had the experience of being on the receiving end of week in and week out.
I would be surprised if any of them don't turn up , never really seen a poor game from them ( haven't seen all of their games mind....enough to be confident....Sam and his ill discipline games would go closest ) so I think you're hedging your bets here.....you only need two out of three to really rip it up and bring their A game to have dominance in phases imo.
As For Sonny Bill. He's certainly not a NZ Rugby league Great yet. He is from my suburb and went to School with my nephew. I'm in two minds about him. One thing there is no disputing he is a New Zealander , if he were a hint of anything else he would have accepted the overtures form New South Wales to play for them in the joke that is the rep footy merry go round.
Williams has all the gifts to have a shot at being one of the greats of NZ representative rugby league , he has the ultimate Pack to hunt with in this era , and he has no excuses.
If he goes down in History as a World Cup winner and plays to his dominant potential , he will be NZ's Dally Messenger , code swapping God.
One thing I will say about him , he has chosen to play for the title so that's a start on the NZ's best ever 17......he has to go a long way to catch up with Mark Graham , Dean Bell , Ruben Wiki and Stacey Jones. | |
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| Quote ="El Diablo"I hope not.'"
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| Quote ="RAFLeaguer"didn't mean their own jaws. I was thinking more Thurston and Smith.'"
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| Quote ="RAFLeaguer"didn't mean their own jaws. I was thinking more Thurston and Smith.'"
It will be interesting with the Burgess rough house style of play but that's nothing new for England internationals ( that's not a dig I'm a fan of a bit of old fashioned contact ) I hope they rile Paul Gallen into doing something stupid.
The Australian sides have the arrogance and the reputation to get away with a lot mind.
They also back their indiscretions up with defensive spells , I'm pretty sure the Top NRL teams give away the most penalties and back it up with their defence ( I read that somewhere , probably an article on Melbournes wrestling ).
I'm sure there will be plenty of fireworks , if it gets out of hand then you'd be looking at replacing your captain I guess , controlled aggression and all of that.
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