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| Quote ="lionarmour87"So When Christ ascended to heaven after the resurection,where on "on Earth ,or heaven"did he go?then of course there was the Muslim prophet Mohamed he also ascended to heaven.Do you accept the the Muslim prophet also ascended to heaven or was he just a false prophet?'"
Clearly a false prophet.
Jesus is in Heaven.
He shall return one day and people like me will be raptured.
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"Clearly a false prophet.
Jesus is in Heaven.
He shall return one day and people like me will be raptured.'"
Me too x .....but only if you give me a kiss
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"Quote ="lionarmour87"So When Christ ascended to heaven after the resurection,where on "on Earth ,or heaven"did he go?then of course there was the Muslim prophet Mohamed he also ascended to heaven.Do you accept the the Muslim prophet also ascended to heaven or was he just a false prophet?'"
Clearly a false prophet.
Jesus is in Heaven.
He shall return one day and people like me will be raptured.'"
If there's any justice, you'll spend eternity being bummed by Satan himself.
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| What about children in tribes in the likes of the amazon? They will never be taught about 'god' as you know it so won't get the opportunity to worship him. Do they go to hell too?
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"Because they are not good, they are sinners.
They lie, steal, commit adultery and use the Lord;s name in vain. And that's only 4 of the 10 Commandments.'"
there are athiests who do not lie,definately do not steal ,and do not commit adultery,and of course do not use jesus christs name at all
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| Quote ="Sibbs Rhinos"What about children in tribes in the likes of the amazon? They will never be taught about 'god' as you know it so won't get the opportunity to worship him. Do they go to hell too?'"
They will be judged according to what they know.
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"there are athiests who do not lie,definately do not steal ,and do not commit adultery,and of course do not use jesus christs name at all'"
I don't believe you.
Do you know what adultery is?
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"Quote ="Sibbs Rhinos"What about children in tribes in the likes of the amazon? They will never be taught about 'god' as you know it so won't get the opportunity to worship him. Do they go to hell too?'"
They will be judged according to what they know.'"
You're making it up as you go along now.
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"Quote ="lionarmour87"there are athiests who do not lie,definately do not steal ,and do not commit adultery,and of course do not use jesus christs name at all'"
I don't believe you.
Do you know what adultery is?'"
Ah, you're gonna do the whole thought crime bit now, right? Even if you think about it he'll know, and it's off to hell you go. That's it, innit?
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| Quote ="Rock God X"icon_lol.gif
You're making it up as you go along now.'"
No, that has been the Christian teaching from way before I was a child of God.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Ah, you're gonna do the whole thought crime bit now, right? Even if you think about it he'll know, and it's off to hell you go. That's it, innit?'"
Do you know what adultery is?
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"I don't believe you.
Do you know what adultery is?'"
Well one time I refused to commit adultery because of my respect for the husband of the wife who came onto me.It went against my principles ,and I wouldnt have been able to look a good man in the eye.Is that good enough ?because it is to me
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"Well one time I refused to commit adultery because of my respect for the husband of the wife who came onto me.It went against my principles ,and I wouldnt have been able to look a good man in the eye.Is that good enough ?because it is to me'"
Ok, but do you know what adultery is?
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"Quote ="Rock God X"icon_lol.gif
You're making it up as you go along now.'"
No, that has been the Christian teaching from way before I was a child of God.'"
It mentions them specifically in the Bible, does it? Anyone who has heard of God but doesn't believe is sent to Hell, but children in Amazonian tribes who may not have heard of him will be judged by a different set of rules? Which verse is that?
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"Ok, but do you know what adultery is?'"
Ive now had it with you mush
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| Quote ="Rock God X"It mentions them specifically in the Bible, does it? Anyone who has heard of God but doesn't believe is sent to Hell, but children in Amazonian tribes who may not have heard of him will be judged by a different set of rules? Which verse is that?'"
Also surely god could just contact them no? Why does it have to be 'taught' to them if god would know fine well they'd never be aware of his existance.
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"Quote ="Rock God X"Ah, you're gonna do the whole thought crime bit now, right? Even if you think about it he'll know, and it's off to hell you go. That's it, innit?'"
Do you know what adultery is?'"
Yeah, it's where I pop round to your house and rut your missus while you're at church.
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"I don't believe you.
Do you know what adultery is?'"
you have no right to judge any one who has not committed a crime against humanity
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| So Kirkstaller. Hate to get personal but I have to ask the obvious question.
Given that it is a sin worthy of being smote down by God to cast thy seed upon the ground, do you abstain totally from non-procreational sexual activity (including when you're alone!)?
...and if so are the rest of us condemned to eternal damnation.
I only ask 'cos if recreational sex is a mortal and damnable sin I reckon you're gonna be pretty lonely beyond those pearly gates with only Isaac Newton, George Handel and Mohandas Gandhi for company.
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| Simple explanation for the existence of God.
Man, by his very nature, is inquisitive. We need to know stuff. There needs to be a rational explanation for everything, otherwise our minds have difficulty processing information from point to point. Being told “because that’s how it is” simply doesn’t cut it with most people.
God, or the existence of an almighty being, rationalises everything with no need for further explanation.
2000 years ago the was slightly less scientific exploration and the masses needed to know how the earth came into existence, or why people die, what happens after people die, etc. God became an indubitable answer to ALL questions, “… it is Gods will”. This then appeases man’s need to know stuff.
Simples.
...also - this thread really goes to show the disparity between the numbers Christian Rugby League supporters and those of us that are going to be spending our afterlife wishing we'd brought the factor 40 suncream.
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| I thought that God was a mix between Morgan Freeman, and Ricky Gervais. Freeman makes the role of God look so easy in Bruce Almighty, surely only the real true God could pull that off. He also changes shape, and no other man I know of can do that. Gervais has taken up inventing animals so he must also be part of the omnipotent crowd too.
Oh and Adultery, that's an easy one, just wikipedia it. No need to ask God at all.
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| Nope, god is James Mason, just Youtube Eddie Izzard for an explanation, "God and the dinosaurs".
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| Quote ="McLaren_Field"Nope, god is James Mason, just Youtube Eddie Izzard for an explanation, "God and the dinosaurs".'"
Now that's what I call evidence!
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"Quote ="lionarmour87"So When Christ ascended to heaven after the resurection,where on "on Earth ,or heaven"did he go?then of course there was the Muslim prophet Mohamed he also ascended to heaven.Do you accept the the Muslim prophet also ascended to heaven or was he just a false prophet?'" Clearly a false prophet.
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Eh? How is that clear? Only just read the last few pages of this thread so apologies if you've already answered this.
But you can't just make a statement like that with no back-up argument or explanation. Why is Mohamed less credible than Jesus? Is Jewish Moses, another prophet in whom's teachings both believed, equally to be dismissed? Or David?
Whether any "prophet" is a reality at all is another argument, but why accept some and not others as fact as the only evidence for each is at worst subjective and at best based on texts so ancient we have no comprehension of how accurate they are?
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| Quote ="WormInHand"Eh? How is that clear? Only just read the last few pages of this thread so apologies if you've already answered this.
But you can't just make a statement like that with no back-up argument or explanation. Why is Mohamed less credible than Jesus? Is Jewish Moses, another prophet in whom's teachings both believed, equally to be dismissed? Or David?
Whether any "prophet" is a reality at all is another argument, but why accept some and not others as fact as the only evidence for each is at worst subjective and at best based on texts so ancient we have no comprehension of how accurate they are?'"
Thankyou
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