Both he and Holroyd were back at training, not IN training. His pre match presser pretty much said both are several weeks away from full training so clearly still a long way off playing

Sounds like he's going full bielsa on them. You might be out for 3 months after this Oledzki but carry on lad.

Agree Batley.
Broadbent was really poor last night.
But we need to stick with him and keep playing him.
He was trying too hard because he get's limited opportunities.
Walker showed some decent flashes.
But they're playing in a team shot for confidence and that's rubbing off on them.

Give Gannon, Broadbent, Tindall, Johnson an extended run.
Sutcliffe, Briscoe, Donaldson, Thompson, Dwyer simply shouldn't be playing.

Saints are doing it.
Problem is, we are in a relegation battle, so that won't happen.

You do know what a metaphor is right?

You can get worked up every time he does a presser if you want but ultimately hes here until we get the right coach.

His comments re Sutcliffe IMO is about confidence the worst thing a coach could do at the moment with a team low on confidence is publicly flog them, that’s why I don’t think sezer was actually injured.

Ok. We were told 2w who that Holroyd was starting sprinting and may be rest for the Saints game…..
Some odd messages coming out…..

I was just about to post the exact same thing.

Maybe. Reading between lines I think he may be but that there's scepticism about the seriousness.

Just listened to JJB again. I can’t stop smiling when he speaks. Think that’s a good thing. He uses a lot of complex words, that don’t think he actually knows the meaning of, but has probably heard them in the church surmons we know he loves. Amongst all the gobbledygook he does actually give some really honest and clear insights into what’s going on behind the scenes, and it’s really refreshing to hear. The last coach who was so blunt and honest was Brian Mac. Now I know JJB won’t be head coach, but I definitely want to see him at our club for a long time as he’s a legend and inspiration…..

Even though the jar was open last night our fleas just couldnt quite jump out of it could they? The rusty shopping trollies remain at the bottom of the canal i fear.

In 1926 when Keighley won the cup yeah i read it in a book yeah that they had this scrum half called John the Baptist yeah n what he did what he did yeah was show fortitude, appitude, malieptitude and hisplanitude yeah and what he did yeah was he got his whole team to put their hands in a fire in a raging furness that kind of gave them this fortitude yeah and thats what we need yeah. And im from Bramley yeah and thats what im gonna do.

That’s because you are a radio obsessed Cas fan ?

Ha. Only right on one count!

I always knew you had a telly?

I do. Just don’t know how to work/tune it!

Don't forget, they put some old tat from home in a bin and set light to it then made a mould of jesus out of the ashes. Then thi stroked is ed when thi cem outtat sheds.

It's all opinions isn't it, but I profoundly disagree with you on this one. JJB is one of the coaches directly responsible for the current state of affairs. It's not like he walked through the doors last week. He has no business being anywhere near a leadership position in a sporting organisation that should aspire to be world class. If he wants to be a coach he needs to start far lower down the ladder and earn it (as he undoubtedly did as a player). Agar did the the honorable thing in stepping down and if JJB wants to trigger the kind of cultural change that he is forever wittering on about he should also step down at the end of his hopefully brief caretaker stint. Sorry for ranting.

That result means this is our worst start to a season since 1899.

As for JJB, I understand he was the only viable choice right now, but he needs to be gone as soon as possible. As you say Arthur, he's been around this complete collapse of the club both as a player and then a coach. We need root and branch change. No more acceptance of mediocrity from top to bottom.

That sounds like a JJB line

But thats a clear sign of fortitude, apptitude and ineptitude surely? Its shows the players are keen to put their heads above the parapit while going down the proverbial foxhole to show fortitude that burns in a raging furness like Jesus Christ called for on the streets of Belle Vue when Wakey little Wakey won the Yorkshire Cup in the face of such adversity in 1898. And thats what everyone in Bramley, the big apple of Leeds, says Leeds needs right now.

JJB is bringing out the inner preacher in us all.
‘And then JJB said to his disciples , ‘Wuk ard lads’ and they thanked him for it and were merry…..’

The situation is Shi#e. We have no guarantee of a win in the next 5 games, the next 5 games the opposition will also note that playing Leeds is a game they can win. Last night we had little or no idea, we were way off the pace, 5 try’s to none and they bombed another 3/4 try’s. Clueless.
Am I correct in saying that Furner, ( like him or not) said we need to get rid of the shi#e so they got rid of him. No one could make up this crap. The rebuilding of the team continues for the seventh year, and we are no further forward, in fact we are going backwards at an alarming rate.

We do have some good players. Sadly some of our best are injured, and its just highlighted how awful some of the others are. The new coach needs to identify those just not up to it, and also those who are just toxic, and look to move them on as soon as possible. Sadly we can't buy our way out of this mess, so we'll have to milk the garbage along for some time. But cards need to be marked and no more second chances, or re-signing "good lads" or players who have just been around a long time.

Between JJB elaborated pressers he did say they need to separate the wheat from the chaff it was obvious what he meant

Our lack of depth means we can't just drop half the team. The problem is the 'chaff' know they don't have to perform to keep getting picked. All we can do is try to remember these games and individual non-performances when it comes time to renew contracts, but its going to take a couple of seasons to winkle out all the hangers on unless we can do some deals at the end of the year or threaten some players with ending their Leeds careers in the reserves.

He's going to bake 5 loaves and feed the five thousand at the next home game?