He needs to spend some time in reserves or on loan if he's not willing to do that just let him go like Leeming.

Anyone heard anything about Newmans injury?
I've been told worse than RS letting on but not a reliable source

Sezer had some quad issues in the first half against Leigh, and was then stayed off at HT according to RS.

One of the problems is the lack of quality coming through the academy especially in key positions. Do we have a FB or high quality halves in the academy. Do we have a Welsby or a Dodd in our ranks?

As for signing real quality overseas this hasn't happened for many years - this is the remit of Saints and Wigan who seem to be far more adept at spotting talent that will go well in SL.

The problem with Smith is his communication is so poor - fans are important stakeholders and they need to have a feel for the transition and why Smith feels his methods and selection policy is giving such inconsistency. Compare his communication to either Peat or Wellens.

All coaches struggle with messaging when their team loses regularly. Its easy to sound like an all-knowing guru when you're winning - as Smith did last year.

What 'real quality' have signed for Wigan or Sts recently, just out of interest? Field and Bevan were marginal NRL players, not stars. I don't see a single star at Sts. Of far more importance is the fact that Sts spine, which is easily the best in the competition, is entirely made up of English players - and I think they are all Sts products?

The participation of amateur Rl has declined over the last 10 years is it a coincidence that amount of quality in superleague has declined in the same period?

if you read the post it said saints and wigan have the knack of picking up players who will thrive in SL, as we did with kylie

it's not about buying stars as that won't happen.

What I said was Saints/Wigan pick up NRL players that are very effective in SL - not stars: Bevan/Field/Cust at Wigan - Saints have Hopoate/Sironen/Paasi - they have even made a reasonable player out of Hurrell. Martin is the only decent NRL signing Leeds have made in years.

Prior was very good.

Prior was good, so was Ava.

Maybe only in his first year.
Not so in his last year.

Neither have had the effect on a whole team like French or Field which is what the poster is saying.

Yeah I also think our expectations have been lowered over the years so a steady/solid performer is a world away from some of the dross. Let's not forget though that prior had a big chunk of time being ineffective.

I don’t expect us to sign Ali or Superman, but a Kylie, Frogger or Scotty Donald are all still very possible.

Perhaps I miss read it, thought the post said the only ‘Very effective SL player we’ve signed from overseas in years is Martin’

I think the issue is closer to the statement you’ve made, in the ones with brought in haven’t had that whole team impact, with the possible exception of Rob Lui, although granted he wasn’t directly from the NRL.

Most of the big signings haven’t worked out. Prior did for a while, same with Hurrell. Annoyingly Lolohea worked out but not for us. We’ve not really took a gamble on a ‘Kylie Type’ recently, with the possible exception of King, who annoyingly has proved to be someone else’s gain.

Our senior recruitment simply hasn’t been as good as the top sides for an eternity.

Our eggs are definitely in the youth basket but hopefully we can move forward now the nucleus of a decent side is there.

King vunywhatshisname didn’t get enough time ditto Jack Ormandroyd,Dupree, Trout,looking like Walters is going the same way.

Who's the next Gun from the academy? If there's some quality coming through you've got question the most recent signings.

While I can see your point on some of them, it’s worth pointing out the majority of those were under the old regime.

you cant win, i want results and i want them now. Why are we not letting the youth play and develop but throw teddies out with every loss. rinse and repeat.
Finding it very difficult to keep a straight face reading a lot of the BS on here these days

King and Oramdroyd were slated every week on here, for not been good enough for Leeds.
You cant keep hold of young players forever, Dupree had to go to the Championship to mature, Trout has done ok, nothing special.

They always have something to moan about.

Looks a decent championship pack that…..

None are in the championship though are they......