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| I'd have thought that the only position he could really become a 'star' in - in either code - would be fullback. He's not got the build to be a top-flight centre and he's really not blindingly quick which for someone his size you'd want on the wing.
Someone said he's a great 'all-rounder', but he needs to specialise or else he'll be a jack of all trades.
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| 13 or 15 for me. I think he'd make a good 13.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"I'd have thought that the only position he could really become a 'star' in - in either code - would be fullback. He's not got the build to be a top-flight centre and he's really not blindingly quick which for someone his size you'd want on the wing.
Someone said he's a great 'all-rounder', but he needs to specialise or else he'll be a jack of all trades.'"
Lewsey did ok for himself in a similar versatile role & stature
according to the gospel that is wiki
Smith
Height 179 cm (5 ft 10 in)
Weight 84 kg (13 st 3 lb)
Lewsey
Height 5 ft 10 in (1.78 m)
Weight 13 st 10 lbs (87 kg)
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| I just don't think he'll ever hack it as an outstanding centre in league - maybe in Union.
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| Quote ="Nemanja"[url=http://www.richardlanephotography.co.uk/search/results.ehtml?searchtype=advanced;search=1;fixture_id=5498;x=30;y=6&page=1Debut pictures[/url.'"
Sums up life as a Yawnion winger...gets his hands on the ball in the warm up and then waits on the wing for 80 mins making the odd supporting run to keep warm but with no real expectation of receiving the ball.
[size=75(I filled in on the wing a couple of times when at school - never been so cold in all my life)[/size
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"I'd have thought that the only position he could really become a 'star' in - in either code - would be fullback. He's not got the build to be a top-flight centre and he's really not blindingly quick which for someone his size you'd want on the wing.'"
I think he could play wing ok. I'd agree he isn't blindingly quick although he's certainly not slow. What you don't mention is his awareness of space and his anticipation, particularly of kicks (both grubbers and aerial). Given the scarcity of tries in the ru prem, I don't think there's many wingers who will become stars in the foreseeable, particularly if they're dependent on chances created in the conventional way where the ball's shipped through the backs. Where Smith may stand out is by taking advantage of attacking kicks and by surprising defences in broken play.
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| Quote ="Omar Little"Sums up life as a Yawnion winger...gets his hands on the ball in the warm up and then waits on the wing for 80 mins making the odd supporting run to keep warm but with no real expectation of receiving the ball.
[size=75(I filled in on the wing a couple of times when at school - never been so cold in all my life)[/size'"
It's noted you didn't go looking for the ball then.
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| Quote ="loinertillidie"It's noted you didn't go looking for the ball then.
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Didn't particularly want my head stamped on (besides the frostbite made it hard to run after the first half an hour)
Back then a union winger was expected to hug the touchline for the whole game in both attack and defence (nobody seemed to notice/care that this effectively made the game 13 a side on a 30 meter wide pitch) .
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| Quote ="loinertillidie"It's noted you didn't go looking for the ball then.
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Can't be easy with 16 lardar$es lying on top of it
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| Quote ="loinertillidie"ahead of whom? Cueto, Foden, Strettle...'"
Give him time to settle in and he'll be the equal of the latter two, certainly.
Foden's way too flaky to play 15 at international level, although if Ugo Monye can get (half) a game there then anyone can.
On the subject of blinding pace, I wouldn't say Smith was particularly slower than Matt Banahan for example.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Give him time to settle in and he'll be the equal of the latter two, certainly.
Foden's way too flaky to play 15 at international level, although if Ugo Monye can get (half) a game there then anyone can.
On the subject of blinding pace, I wouldn't say Smith was particularly slower than Matt Banahan for example.'"
Let's face it there aren't many Brian Habanah's in either code.
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| Quote ="Serge A. Storms"Let's face it there aren't many Brian Habanah's in either code.
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Habana's a bit special, his balance and acceleration are exceptional and he's not afraid of the physical side of the game either.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Habana's a bit special, his balance and acceleration are exceptional and he's not afraid of the physical side of the game either.'"
[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/8397821.stmQuite.[/url
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| Interesting in that clip that the intercepted pass was thrown by McAlister(sp?) who was born here when his dad Charlie played for Oldham I think.
I always remember that he had the biggest thighs I've ever seen. Their shorts had a thin white stripe down except in Charlie's case when it seemed to be about a foot wide.
McAlister junior played for Sale & I always thought he'd have made a good RL centre but the lure of playing for the All Blacks took him back to NZ.
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| Quote ="rugbyleague88"13 or 15 for me. I think he'd make a good 13.'"
He's never a loose forward in a month of Sundays.
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| Quote ="Old Feller"Interesting in that clip that the intercepted pass was thrown by McAlister(sp?) who was born here when his dad Charlie played for Oldham I think.
I always remember that he had the biggest thighs I've ever seen. Their shorts had a thin white stripe down except in Charlie's case when it seemed to be about a foot wide.
McAlister junior played for Sale & I always thought he'd have made a good RL centre but the CASH of playing for the All Blacks took him back to NZ.'"
Typo etc...
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| Quote ="Old Feller"Interesting in that clip that the intercepted pass was thrown by McAlister(sp?) who was born here when his dad Charlie played for Oldham I think.
I always remember that he had the biggest thighs I've ever seen. Their shorts had a thin white stripe down except in Charlie's case when it seemed to be about a foot wide.
McAlister junior played for Sale & I always thought he'd have made a good RL centre but the lure of playing for the All Blacks took him back to NZ.'"
Had the pleasure of playing against Charlie when he was briefly at Bradford & Bingley. I think they earn big money as All Blacks - it seems to be very much treated as a brand, not sure anyone could afford him at the moment.
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| According to Sky's website, Wasps' next televised game is;
Thu 17 Bayonne v London Wasps (7.45pm) 7.30pm Challenge Cup
Will Smith make he's full début? I'd be interesting in watching it.
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| Quote ="mirfieldrhino"According to Sky's website, Wasps' next televised game is;
Thu 17 Bayonne v London Wasps (7.45pm) 7.30pm Challenge Cup
Will Smith make he's full début? I'd be interesting in watching it.'"
Not sure how quickly they'll throw him in. Depends how he goes in whatever reserve grade games he has before then I expect.
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| Quote ="mirfieldrhino"According to Sky's website, Wasps' next televised game is;
Thu 17 Bayonne v London Wasps (7.45pm) 7.30pm Challenge Cup
Will Smith make he's full début? I'd be interesting in watching it.'"
No but we get to see Craig Gower...
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Quote ="loinertillidie"No but we get to see Craig Gower...'"
But when anyone plays Stade Francaise it may be the last chance to see Gasnier.
www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,865 ... 66,00.html
Back to Smith, I can't see him making his debut for some time yet.
It will be better him to take his time, I'm sure that Sean Edwards (is a w*nker?) won't rush him.
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But when anyone plays Stade Francaise it may be the last chance to see Gasnier.
www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,865 ... 66,00.html
Back to Smith, I can't see him making his debut for some time yet.
It will be better him to take his time, I'm sure that Sean Edwards (is a w*nker?) won't rush him.
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| Quote ="mirfieldrhino"According to Sky's website, Wasps' next televised game is;
Thu 17 Bayonne v London Wasps (7.45pm) 7.30pm Challenge Cup
Will Smith make he's full début? I'd be interesting in watching it.'"
Will Smith is Playing Rugby Union! Awesome
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| Quote ="flipper"Had the pleasure of playing against Charlie when he was briefly at Bradford & Bingley. I think they earn big money as All Blacks - it seems to be very much treated as a brand, not sure anyone could afford him at the moment.'"
Big call, he was a giant. Accordung to Luke, his father (Charlies) had to cut his wellies because his calves wouldn't fit in.
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