I wondered when squad was announced if it was too many changes with not match fit players.

There are some massive knee jerk reactions in here. Pele slating the team for poor last tackle options when the is the first time this season we have had two people even vaguely resembling half backs playing. Tonight, one hadn't played half back for a year, the other hasn't played rugby in a year, and not played RL in a decade. To the people who are saying what do they work on all week in training your really have no idea how professional sport works. Your can't get a second row on extra kicking practice for a fortnight and expect him to be Matty Johns. The likes of sinfield and gale spend years and years doing practice, practice and more practice.

In a world where a poor kick means a 20m restart and a 7 tackle set, I can see why a powerplay is chosen

It is about having a plan on the last and we do not have one

Some definitely looked jaded, Prior in particular. Bright spots for me were Oledski (starting to look the business week on week), Mellor (ran hard and tackled hard),and Broadbent (only on for twenty minutes but dangerous every time he touched the ball.) Not going to say Eastmond was a positive but I'm not writing him off yet. Dropped his shoulder and had a go a couple of times in the second and looked good. It's a confidence thing with him. Hurrell ran hard for lots of metres. Should have played him at right centre.

Not kicking it is a plan.

In fairness I think the big efforts v saints and Wigan caught up with us to some extent.

However, I don’t get how we can’t ever get to an attacking on 6th tackle. If you get organised a half can kick across the pitch and land it somewhere near the corner. With a weeks training I could still do it now wearing walking boots.

I agree it is now and then but for me when done nearly all the time it is overly cautious and easy to defend. We need to try harder to score, get a repeat set, benefit from a defender knocking on etc.
Anyway, let’s hope Gale is recovering OK.

i thought pele was better than that sort of thing expected from madonna

While the lack of half backs and general scale of injuries has to be taken into consideration the sheer ineptitude and lack of a an for the end of sets has to be questioned. While the naturally gifted kickers may not be available surely a clue of basic last tackle structured plays can be coached. We brought Sean Long in to improve our attacking structure. You would wonder what they have worked on in training sessions.

Leaving Walters out and putting Broadbent on the bench sends the wrong message to me considering their performances. Not heard a coach say players need to look at themselves for a while, well Agar you need to be strong enough to leave under performers out and not reward mediocrity with a new deal.

Didn't sound like it was just lack of last tackle options tonight. Atrocious discipline, dropping the ball, no intensity....
Think that's why people are being so critical. We've seen too many of these type of performances since 2015. Probably rings an alarm bell somewhere. Let's remember that KR are likely to be in bottom 4 this year too....

Not being funny, but how has a club the size of Leeds got Agar as its coach?
I thought he was very lucky to get the Wakey gig when he left us (Hull).

i wonder why you didnt say that last week or the week before

Amazed by the comments saying agar is no good and should be out. Don't get me wrong he ballsed it up tonight but Leeds have been much improved recently. Sounded like Mondays review will be interesting from the interview

First game in a while, I understand that completely, but I thought Richie Myler's contribution was two tackles last night. Summed up by him gobbin off to the ref, he can stop that immediately. Thats certainly not summat we want to see from a Leeds player.

Didn’t watch the game thankfully but from what I’ve read and Agars interview I missed a woeful effort. He’s seething.

Season nearly over imo if we lose to hudds next week

Obviously an over reaction to be calling for Agars head, but some of the coaching decisions last night were not good enough.
We have a talented young kid who’s done well standing in at FB and we have two wingers that are just not good enough.
Our best winger (and one of the best in SL) comes back from injury and we play him at FB and put Broadbent on the bench!!!
And I’ve said it before, but Martin needs a rest. He’s clearly not fit and carrying effects of Covid.
Again, we have a talented back row who has played well and he gets dropped.
If Martin is about goal kicking, then it’s irrelevant if you don’t look like scoring tries!!!
What message are we sending to Walters and Broadbent?

Does this make sense to anyone or not??? Cos I cant understand why it never happens.

If our aim on the last when we are attacking is to not kick it in fear of it going dead and giving a tap 20 7 tackle set to our opponents then rather than taking a tackle and handing it over for a 6 tackle set why not play the ball and the hooker instead of picking it up just kicks it 5 yards sidewards . I guarantee the opposition will dive on it and its then tackle 1 where we would normally hand it over anyway.

The normal tackle 1 would then be tackle 2 etc and the opposition should then be kicking on their last further back than they are now.

If the plan is to make opponents bring it away from their own line give them less tackles to do it and mount pressure that way.

Unconventional but good point and better than what they're currently 'attempting'

Can't see us getting a result against Hudds. Going to be freaky hard to turn that shambles around in a week....
Must be really unfit squad to be 'tired' this Earthy into season.

Had a feeling we'd go with Handley at fullback so while its a poor call imo, it wasnt suprising, long term, i do worry what our coaching team are seeing in Handley to think he's an option there.

What i was more interested in seeing last night, was which one of Broadbent or Suttcliffe started at Centre, that selection was the more dissapointing one to me, Broadbents so much better than Suttcliffe at centre.

Jack is still young, a week on bench here, a week out there will benefit him long term. Playing every week will harm him long term. Same, and probably even more so with Walters.

Got to gradual with these kids.

Jacks not going to get a look in when L Suttcliffe and Newman return, dont think too much rugbys going to be an issue. I believe the selection last night was just a case of where they currently stand in the pecking order in the coaches eyes.

Thats true if there are quality players ahead of these lads. But simply not true for our team.....

The other issue is there’s no reserve grade rugby or duel reg so there’s going to be large parts of the year where game time is going to be hard to come by, not great for development