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| [urlhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/poll/2009/mar/18/leedsunited[/url
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| i'm not knocking cloughs record but the directors wanted shooting for giving him the job and he should have done it differently. you would have thought he wanted to fail
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| Quote ="Loop"[urlhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/poll/2009/mar/18/leedsunited[/url
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Have a look at his playing record. He was probably the best English goal-scorer of his generation.
How many European Cups did the members of the Leeds squad win as managers? How many trophies full stop did they win between them as managers? Not one of them was fit to lace Clough's boots.
If Manny Cussins had grown a pair and cleared the egos and Revie apologists out the dressing room then maybe, just maybe, Leeds fans could sign about being actual champions of Europe (maybe even twice) rather than pretending.'"
Wasn't nearly all his career spent in division 2?
It's like someone in 50 years time saying Jermaine Beckford was the best goal scorer of his generation!
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| 3-0 after 32 mins
3 goals in 5 minutes
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| Quote ="King Monkey"3-0 after 32 mins
3 goals in 5 minutes
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Any finger nails left???
Man Utd fans can console themselves that they only have a short drive home after their loss and 2 red cards
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| Quote ="Longun"Any finger nails left???
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| We nearly threw that away worrying injuries to rui and killa!!
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| Quote ="Longun"Liverpool need to take full advantage, especially with Chelsea losing too
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| Quote ="Longun"Liverpool need to take full advantage, especially with Chelsea losing too
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Couldnt agree more with that. I hope they do, but knowing what its like, Liverpool will let the chance go begging.
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| Quote ="Kallum Watkins' Left Boot"Couldnt agree more with that. I hope they do, but knowing what its like, Liverpool will let the chance go begging.'"
Nil niller Today. Liverpool will get something stuck in their throats and choke.
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| Quote ="Bang"Nil niller Today. Liverpool will get something stuck in their throats and choke.'"
Villa are on freefall though atm
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| Quote ="Gandy"Villa are on freefall though atm
Think Liverpool will throw points away. Will be a lucky weekend where manure drop points yet no one else can take advantage'"
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"Wrong
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| [urlhttp://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/football_league/article5966594.ece[/url
Far too many in that list I haven't seen, and I'd personally swap the top 2 around, but an interesting read none the less.
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| Quote ="Lord_Percy"[urlhttp://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/football_league/article5966594.ece[/url
Far too many in that list I haven't seen, and I'd personally swap the top 2 around, but an interesting read none the less.'"
the pages loaded really slowly, and only 5 to a page meant it too me ages to get through it, but was a good read
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| Quote ="Lord_Percy"[urlhttp://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/football_league/article5966594.ece[/url
Far too many in that list I haven't seen, and I'd personally swap the top 2 around, but an interesting read none the less.'"
As much as Billys a legend I'd have had John Charles at the top of that list, added Gary Kelly and had Yeboah in the top 20!
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| Sam Sodje has signed from Reading on loan until the end of the season
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| Did anyone see the Clough documentary on YTV last night? My mate, who supports Man Utd, said to me this morning that after watching it he could see why Leeds sacked Clough.
One thing that was a total mis-match was the interview with Brian and Don on the day Clough was sacked. He ran rings round Don, not that it came as much of a surprise that he was a more gifted speaker.
Oh, and how good was Clough? Was it all really down to Peter Taylor? Without his right-hand man Clough won pretty much nothing, both in his short time at Leeds and after Taylor had gone back to Derby. Of course, the fact Taylor was a failure there hardly lends credence to that particular argument.
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| Quote ="Lord_Percy"Did anyone see the Clough documentary on YTV last night? My mate, who supports Man Utd, said to me this morning that after watching it he could see why Leeds sacked Clough.
One thing that was a total mis-match was the interview with Brian and Don on the day Clough was sacked. He ran rings round Don, not that it came as much of a surprise that he was a more gifted speaker.
Oh, and how good was Clough? Was it all really down to Peter Taylor? Without his right-hand man Clough won pretty much nothing, both in his short time at Leeds and after Taylor had gone back to Derby. Of course, the fact Taylor was a failure there hardly lends credence to that particular argument.'"
Although some people are better suited to be number twos than the main man. Brian Kidd springs to mind.
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| Quote ="Lord_Percy"Did anyone see the Clough documentary on YTV last night? My mate, who supports Man Utd, said to me this morning that after watching it he could see why Leeds sacked Clough.
One thing that was a total mis-match was the interview with Brian and Don on the day Clough was sacked. He ran rings round Don, not that it came as much of a surprise that he was a more gifted speaker.
Oh, and how good was Clough? Was it all really down to Peter Taylor? Without his right-hand man Clough won pretty much nothing, both in his short time at Leeds and after Taylor had gone back to Derby. Of course, the fact Taylor was a failure there hardly lends credence to that particular argument.'"
I watched it. Thought it was quite good. Johnny Giles gave him quite a lot of praise compared to how they portrayed him in the book. Also Giles amde a good point about the 3 people who would have sued successfully were already dead and the book would never have been released had they still been around. Hated it when they kept referring to "Dirty Leeds". We weren't more physical than any of the teams back then but because we were the best teams had to kick us up in the air to beat us and we just gave some back
Said that Clough started drinking heavily after he achieved the 2 European cup wins and he couldn't better that, also when he had the big fallout with Taylor and he died before they could become friends again.
Agreed Taylor probably was the man behind it all though. Was a brilliaant number 2 and Clough didn't acheive much without him
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