The UK is several miles outside mainland Europe, but it's still in Europe.

I think neither Leeds or Cas want to claim Kippax, it's just an unadopted vagabond.

Certainly. Kippax is located in the area ringed off by the M62, M1 and A1, within this area the A642 and A63 roads meet, to the south east of where they meet is kippax.

You got there in the end, well done.

The point i'm making is that kippax isnt there to be claimed by anyone, its its own place in its own right.

But part of Leeds.

Please explain why it has its own right. It is in Leeds, simples

No it isnt, i refer you to the map supplied by the ordnance survey.

I got bored trying to work out which blue line was which motorway and which green line was the A63.

You're saying Kippax is a place in its own right. So is many areas and villages i have mentioned but still come under Leeds.

Because the conurbation of leeds is a seperate place, several miles away, and has no connection to leeds apart fromin artificial administrative sense.

These artificial can be misleading and bear little or no relation to where a place is, for instance according to the adminastrative boundries for a number of years hull wasnt part of of yorkshire, even though it clearly is and has been for hundreds of years.

Kippax is in Leeds and to all intents and purposes Cas is in Wakefield. Simples.

Well in the area that is boxed off by the M1, M62 and A1 (the 3 roads that surround castleford on that map) only two A roads meet so it shouldt be to hard to work out.

If you have any more problems i'll be happy to help as i'm very patient.

Artifical, are you having a laugh. Why do you feel the need to create your own boundarys and areas. Its already in place for you. Kippax is a place in Leeds.

Game Over.

Now if you dont mind I have some accounts to produce.

Do you realise what you have just done?

Sod this, I'm off.

Those artificial boundries where created in the 70's in order to stream line council administration, just because some penpusher in the 70's decided to move a line on the map to save to goverment a few quid you think people stopped being from the places they were born?

I havent created any boundries, the council in the 70's created some artificial ones in order to streamline the bureaucratic process though.

No it isnt, and to say it is shows a very clear lack of understanding.

Alternativly it suggests your trolling.

Do you know that Middlesborough is in North Yorkshire? FACT!

Feel free to jog on.

I'm just trying to give another example to make things clearer.

Ask most people where Cas is and, looking at the postcode or map they'd say its a suburb of Wakefield, same as Kippax and the rest of Leeds.

I expect most people from Cas would feel that way - to assosciate with the bigger and more glamourous parent town.

yeah looks like your trolling.

And by the way most people looking at a map seeing two sperate locations with open land inbetween wouldnt say they are the same place. Unless you give it to them in the waiting room at specsavers.

Also there isnt a bigger town than castleford in the district so there cannot be a bigger town than cas to be associated with.

Ok, so you don't agree for some reason but there's no need to dismiss it as trolling just because of that.

Cas has a Wakefield post code for a reason - Cas is effectively a Wakefield suburb.

Thats not to demean places like Cas, Fev or Ackworth by the way.

That reason is that the post office allocated some artificial boundries in order to ease administration needs, there was no other reason, and it has no other effect other than to simplify post office sorting offices procedure.

I once worked in a Doctors office, for administration purposes we split up the local area in to lettered zones (so that the gp's knew which area was there reponsability for house calls) so for instance certain streets were marked G on our map, this had no effect on the people of those streets, they didnt suddenly come from zone g, we like the post office had no powers to change where a person was from.

It really isnt though. Have a look at a map and you will see it lies within the Metropolitan Borough of Leeds hence it belongs to Leeds. I'm Morley born and bred nd could say the same for Morley but i won't. Morley is paty of Leeds, just like Pudsey and Hunslet and so on.

Christ do they not teach Geography at Brigshaw?

That would be convenient if true.

Doesn't Cas come under Wakefield Council too?