Well they aren't minor premiers for nothing.

I remember the bans dished out by red hall disgraceful!!!

I can't believe nobody has mentioned FGB's hit on Bailey after the Mary incident . A deliberate attempt to inflict a serious injury on Bailey (from behind)

Cheapshot etc etc etc... He deserves all he gets does the big , fat , ginger, sulking lover. (I actually typed 'lover' )

While KC clearly thought it was the best game he'd played in since his brothers were around...disagreement in the Saints camp there...

Nothing wrong with being 3rd man in the tackle. As one of the players struggling to put a man down, you'd be appreciative

I think the point Leeds are missing is that you are the most skillful and pacey side in the competition. Why not use that to full effect instead of trying to act like the Bradford of old or the Huddersfield of today and bully your way to victory?

I love that we are the nastiest team around!! lets bash em, biff em, chicken wing em, knock their heads off, rip the ball out, blag the ref!! Then use our skill pace and power in attack!!

I love the fact that bailey, kylie and ablett own mary!! I love that keef dropped wilkin with a jab!!

I hear soft cock saints fans saying they would rather lose than play like leeds!! Well your team seems to give you exactly what you ask for when it comes to the business end of the season

as a great great man once saiid!! I hate st Helens!! I hate the place, the fans and the players!!

For me you can go f**k each other you gyp0 c***s!!

Stop trying to score points in some bulle argument you have dreamed up to hide behind in defeat!! It just don't wash around here!!

Difficult when Saints were playing like Huddersfield of this season laying on and slowing the play down at every opportunity

The best teams can win whatever way is necessary (think Revie's Leeds).

It's one of the most admirable qualities of the current Leeds side (and a quality we lacked for most of the 32 years we went between championships).

It also might just have had some influence on our winning of the last two GF's against supposedly superior opposition

Says a St Helens fan. We remember what a St Helens player did to Robbie Mears. We remember what a St Helens player did to Graham Mackay.

It's just hilarious seeing all the whining from St Helens fans about their poor little babies being bullied when their recent history is full of disgusting incidents. It's funny seeing how opposed they are to punches being thrown during a game when one of their recent legends, Paul Sculthorpe, could barely manage to get through the coin toss without smacking someone in the face.

If JJB is guilty of a deliberate chicken wing tackle then he'll get banned, and he'll deserve a ban. But that isn't going to be determined by the amount of Saints fans whinging about the incident. Just because Saints fans claim that they are Saints by name, saints by nature doesn't mean we have to listen to that bul5hit.

You lot still going on about this? Amazing!


We're not complaining about the biff. We love the biff as much as any RL fan. It's the chicken wing that's the problem. As it would be to you lot if one of ours had done to one of yours what peanut head did to Jammer. Peanut head should get a ban. It's unlikely he will, but he should. There's also a bit of concern about the grapple on Eastmond, mainly because of the neck pressure, but not as much as the chicken wing.

All the rest is history. The biff is part of what makes the Leeds-Saints contests the best in the league by a country mile.

IF he's found gulity of a chicken wing then i'd expect him to be banned!!
As for Webb's grapple did you miss gilmour and flannery's grapples????
Or what about hide"n" seek champs headslam on diskin???
Like i said earlier it was a tough match and BOTH teams were at it but it seems a lot of your fans don't like it when you get it back and we are all dirty scumbags!!

Of course he did, he's a Saints fan

Well, it was clearly a chicken wing. Proper wrestling isn't supposed to put that kind of pressure on a joint. Whether he'll be found guilty is another matter.

I specifically mentioned Eastmond's neck in the hope that those who read my post would identify the reason for our concern there. Grapples are happening all over the spot and either they're stamped out or left to occur, whichever. But the concern was the way the neck went back, that is what made it stand out.


Now that statement makes [iyou[/i sound whiney!

If you say so, i look forward to our next encounter.

Me too. I always look forward to encounters with Leeds. Never a dull moment.

Graham is a prop forward FFS. If he can't handle a bit of nigle then he should go play something else.

Is this subject ever gonna go away???

Big soft puff he is.

Put him up against someone like Roy Dickinson.

Didn't St Helens introduce the 'chicken wing' into this country anyway?

Is there an earlier example than [url=http://www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplinary_item.php?id=791Fa'asavalu's[/url in round 4 of this season?

Didn't the RFL's compliance manager describe it as a technique?

Didn't Potter have to defend the inference that St Helens teach it? (Which I accept that they probably don't)

Big Roy could get smacked all over the park and he never stopped smiling and he could dish it out just ask Les Gorley

Funniest thing ever on the night when big Roy finally snapped and bashed the hell out of Gorley at Headingley.

I remember some Widnes fans whinging about it afterwards and I reminded them of the night that Jim Mills gave a teenage Roy a torrid night he'd never forget in one of his first games for Leeds at Naughton Park.

They say what goes around comes around...

I totally agree & something young master Graham may do well to ponder on.
Compare & contrast with the blessed JP who's been taking it & giving it for the past decade.
Mind you he was 22 or 23 when he broke into the Bulls 1st team.

Personally I think Graham's a darned good prop - and having a temper isn't a bad thing for a prop unless I've been watching the wrong sport for the last 20+ years. When he learns to channel his aggression he'll be even better. Webcke at the Broncos was the best example of this - rarely if ever got involved in fisticuffs etc, but if someone got him mad he'd run the ball in like a grade 'A' loon - most often straight at whoever caused his ire.

A bit of biff's a good thing every now and then, and the fact that there's no love lost between players of the top two sides adds to the occasions when we meet IMO.

100% agreement. I for one, wouldn't want a prop that didn't behave in the way you described above.