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| Murray has a track record for improving under achieving teams, for having a tough pack, for playing an "entertaining" style (properly) and he would be granted a long grace period to turn things around due to his previous record with Leeds.
I'm not saying he's the messiah, but he would be a massive step in the right direction right now. I agree that he should be given a completely free reign to reshape the playing side of the club, and that succession planning should be on the coach's job description.
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| mcdermotts position has to be nearly untenable doesn't it?
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| Murray IN.
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| I honestly think BMD will be here for the rest of the season regardless of what happens. GH has a reputation for loyalty and I think that this does blinker him to obvious failure and mistakes.
We should only change coach mid season if the right long term answer is available, otherwise we should stick with the current coach for the rest of the season, no matter how painful this may be.
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| Quote ="Jamie B"Murray IN.'"
Is never gonna happen. He left the club under a cloud and GH will not entertain him. As a coach he was superb tho.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"I honestly think BMD will be here for the rest of the season regardless of what happens. GH has a reputation for loyalty and I think that this does blinker him to obvious failure and mistakes.
We should only change coach mid season if the right long term answer is available, otherwise we should stick with the current coach for the rest of the season, no matter how painful this may be.'"
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| I just have a awful feeling that unless he resigns we will have mac as coach next year as well
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| Quote ="Ferdy"I just have a awful feeling that unless he resigns we will have mac as coach next year as well
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I think as fans we need to make it known to the board that that situation is not one we'd like to see...
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| If results, and for me more importantly performances, are to continue to decline at what point will the fans start to call for him to be sacked during a match?
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"If results, and for me more importantly performances, are to continue to decline at what point will the fans start to call for him to be sacked during a match?'"
It's been a while since that's happened. I've disliked and wanted rid of a few coaches, but can't remember actively chanting for one to go since the days of Reilly.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"If results, and for me more importantly performances, are to continue to decline at what point will the fans start to call for him to be sacked during a match?'"
I think it's verging on that at the moment. Especially if we contine to lose against the perceived "lesser" teams.
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| Graham Murray for me, the best leeds coach in the super league era.
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| Could not argue with the choice of murry but didn't he leave with a bit of cloud?
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| Other than losing disastrously to Castleford Murray didn't leave under a cloud with GH personally.
As great as he was in getting amazing amounts out of, on the face of it, not very much what exactly are his credentials for building a new team for the long term future? That is, like it or not, what the head coach and GH will have to do over the next 2 years, very possibly making themselves unpopular whilst so doing.
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| If we get another head coach he has to be strong to take on the senior players and let them know who is boss - sadly McDermott is not capable of this. There is no way Maguire nor Robinson would put up with what is going on here - player power has to be a thing of the past.
As long as Noble or McRae are not involved I would be happy to see change now - what we don't need a director of football - it simply will not work as long as Hetherington is in charge.
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| Quote ="MjM"As great as he was in getting amazing amounts out of, on the face of it, not very much what exactly are his credentials for building a new team for the long term future? That is, like it or not, what the head coach and GH will have to do over the next 2 years, very possibly making themselves unpopular whilst so doing.'"
100% spot on. We could recruit an excellent coach who takes the long term view and gets shut of some very popular players, some of whom still stand out due to the current poor quality that surrounds them. But results don't show the immediate improvement that the fans crave, said fans fail to purchase season tickets and an excellent coach gets the chop. Leaving us no further forward and. Better to proceed under McDermott, albeit with gritted teeth, until the cycle is played out. At least in my book.
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| Quote ="MjM"Other than losing disastrously to Castleford Murray didn't leave under a cloud with GH personally.
As great as he was in getting amazing amounts out of, on the face of it, not very much what exactly are his credentials for building a new team for the long term future? That is, like it or not, what the head coach and GH will have to do over the next 2 years, very possibly making themselves unpopular whilst so doing.'"
You only have to look at what he did at North Queensland - under Sheens they were a disaster but Murray turned that around and made that club very competitive.
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| What is murray up to at the moment? Does anyone know?
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| Quote ="tad rhino"Nothing'"
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| Hang on
slow down a bit, are we really suggesting a coach who won a trophy for us 11 years ago, really?!
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| According to Wikipedia
Graham Murray (born 6 January 1955) is an Australian rugby league player and coach. Murray is currently the coach of the Australian national women's team
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"Hang on
slow down a bit, are we really suggesting a coach who won a trophy for us 11 years ago, really?!'"
Who would you suggest Loz and why not Murray?
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"If results, and for me more importantly performances, are to continue to decline at what point will the fans start to call for him to be sacked during a match?'"
To be honest it wouldn't surprise me if we hear something like that soon - I was surprised when the southstand were chanting "we want Burrow" at the Wolves match - another few results and bizarre selection decisions like that and I think we could here some chants against BM
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| Quote ="Johnny Rabbit"To be honest it wouldn't surprise me if we hear something like that soon - I was surprised when the southstand were chanting "we want Burrow" at the Wolves match - another few results and bizarre selection decisions like that and I think we could here some chants against BM'"
I think we could be hearing some soon especially if weird squad selections carry on especially if some certain in form players are still missing.
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