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| Quote ="Matt23"We got the rub of the green yesterday to be fair. If we'd have been pulled up for that 'obstuction' I'd have been fuming.'" A try for mine.
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| Quote ="Matt23"If you looked at the decisions and how many points they cost Hull etc, you could probably make a decent case that they should have won the game. However I think we just about deserved it, and could have probably gone up a level when needed. If they can keep everyone fit next season they'll be a far bigger threat.'"
Ifs, buts & maybes Matt. Had the Leeds lead and performance not seemed so far ahead after half time would the team have taken the foot off the gas and allowed Hull back into it?
The disallowed try for Hull was a shocker, but the Burrow forward pass is the sort you'll see in the build up to a try in every game and I don't think Hall's foot touched the line.
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| It's funny but Hull had several "forward passes" that were not spotted also. Maybe if everyone with a big fish gob didn't shout "foorraarrd", or boo constantly a more even handed view of the game might be seen.
I think we had some luck, but as for the obstruction, it was a simple decision (wether you agree with it or not). A Hull player went through into the Leeds defensive line and crashed into a defender who was trying to get to someone else. That's obstruction and a penalty with the interpretation the refs have used for quite a while now (and we have had plenty go against us - none more controversial than Ali last year on the very same ground - but nobody compalins about that because in the end we thrashed them anyway).
I do wish coaches would stop acting like Eddie and Stevo. Funny how we are the most penalised team in the league and that's still not good enough for coaches of cr@p teams we beat.
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| odd that Hull fans missed the two attempted stamps on Peacock and Buderus by Moa at the ptb in the first half. Also When yeaman slipped the ball for broughton before he fell over was either forward or very flat
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| Quote ="Puig-Aubert"Ifs, buts & maybes Matt. Had the Leeds lead and performance not seemed so far ahead after half time would the team have taken the foot off the gas and allowed Hull back into it?
The disallowed try for Hull was a shocker, but the Burrow forward pass is the sort you'll see in the build up to a try in every game and I don't think Hall's foot touched the line.'" I agree PA. We did get the rub of the green but had one of those tries been allowed/disallowed I'm sure we would have been able to kick on. Or we wouldn't have taken Buderus off at the stage we did.
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| Quote ="Dave Heron's Moustache"It's funny but Hull had several "forward passes" that were not spotted also. Maybe if everyone with a big fish gob didn't shout "foorraarrd", or boo constantly a more even handed view of the game might be seen.
I think we had some luck, but as for the obstruction, it was a simple decision (wether you agree with it or not). A Hull player went through into the Leeds defensive line and crashed into a defender who was trying to get to someone else. That's obstruction and a penalty with the interpretation the refs have used for quite a while now (and we have had plenty go against us - none more controversial than Ali last year on the very same ground - but nobody compalins about that because in the end we thrashed them anyway).
I do wish coaches would stop acting like Eddie and Stevo. Funny how we are the most penalised team in the league and that's still not good enough for coaches of cr@p teams we beat.'"
IMO it wasn't obstruction. But to be fair having watched a lot of sky games, whenever Thaler has been video ref over the last couple of seasons he has always pulled the similar incidents as obstruction, so he cant be moaned at about consistency there.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"IMO it wasn't obstruction. But to be fair having watched a lot of sky games, whenever Thaler has been video ref over the last couple of seasons he has always pulled the similar incidents as obstruction, so he cant be moaned at about consistency there.'"
Not even though it was close to the location of the ball?
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| On the obstruction - King ran through and initiated contact with a defender. If you're a dummy runner, you have to run at spaces not faces otherwise you run the risk of being penalised.
On the Burrow forward pass - you cannot possibly expect the referee to be able to call that, from front on and ten yards away from the play. The only person with the perfect viewpoint to spot that is the touch judge, and at the moment the overwhelming majority of them are offering referees to help whatsoever.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"IMO it wasn't obstruction. But to be fair having watched a lot of sky games, whenever Thaler has been video ref over the last couple of seasons he has always pulled the similar incidents as obstruction, so he cant be moaned at about consistency there.'"
That's pretty much the way I saw it, the dummy runner just went a yard too far into the leeds line and collided with Sinny, rather than Sinny picking him out. Would Leeds have stopped the try? Probably not, but I was not surprised it was a penalty to Leeds.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"On the obstruction - King ran through and initiated contact with a defender. If you're a dummy runner, you have to run at spaces not faces otherwise you run the risk of being penalised.
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another way of looking at it is, if that play had happened say on the halfway line would the ref have called it?
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| Quote ="Dave Heron's Moustache"That's pretty much the way I saw it, the dummy runner just went a yard too far into the leeds line and collided with Sinny, rather than Sinny picking him out. Would Leeds have stopped the try? Probably not, but I was not surprised it was a penalty to Leeds.'"
Echoes of the Burrow try at Quins last year which was disallowed because Sinfield effectively stopped in the defensive line and was collected by the defender sliding across (LMS?)
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"another way of looking at it is, if that play had happened say on the halfway line would the ref have called it?'"
You could look at that two ways. Its less likkely to affect play as much on the halfway, so the ref could either give the pen, knowing that the pen wouldn't directly affect the score, or let it go, thinking that the defence would cover from halfway.
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"another way of looking at it is, if that play had happened say on the halfway line would the ref have called it?'"
Would he have seen it, given his eyes are likely to have been following the ball rather than looking at what was happening ten yards away?
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Echoes of the Burrow try at Quins last year which was disallowed because Sinfield effectively stopped in the defensive line and was collected by the defender sliding across (LMS?)'"
I might be wrong. But I think Thaler was the video ref there also.
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| Quote ="Dave Heron's Moustache"It's funny but Hull had several "forward passes" that were not spotted also. Maybe if everyone with a big fish gob didn't shout "foorraarrd", or boo constantly a more even handed view of the game might be seen.
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Yes yes old boy, all Rugby League supporters should see the game from the terraces very even handedly. In fact from now on, when we see one of our respective teams committing the henious crime of a forward pass and getting away with it, we should all instantly try to alert the officials. This of course is exactly what the South Stand committee do.
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| I love the "Forrrrrrwaaaaaaard" chants against rivals its great, even better when they scream it every pass, mostly so i can shout "Baaaaaaaackwaaaaards or siiiiiiiiiideeeeewaaaaaaards" when we have the ball.
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| when saints win i would rather win without the ref helping us out. the ref has helped sinfield and whinos in the past 2 games no on can deny that.
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| Quote ="hamiltonsaint"when saints win i would rather win without the ref helping us out. the ref has helped sinfield and whinos in the past 2 games no on can deny that.'"
Give em a ring, you may be able to help solve this. That is if you were not totally deluded.
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| Quote ="hamiltonsaint"when saints win i would rather win without the ref helping us out. the ref has helped sinfield and whinos in the past 2 games no on can deny that.'"
They can
Where double champions and the best, get over it!
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| Quote ="hamiltonsaint"when saints win i would rather win without the ref helping us out. the ref has helped sinfield and whinos in the past 2 games no on can deny that.'"
how would you know?
you watched the full 80mins of the Bulls game?!
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| Quote ="hamiltonsaint"when saints win i would rather win without the ref helping us out. the ref has helped sinfield and whinos in the past 2 games no on can deny that.'"
funny you say that, as a least 50% of Saints games you'd rather them lose? jog on son
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| Every time we played the ball the Hull faithful shouted "Forward!" It became habitual, even from kick offs and goal line dropouts the chant went up!!
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| Quote ="hamiltonsaint"when saints win i would rather win without the ref helping us out. the ref has helped sinfield and whinos in the past 2 games no on can deny that.'"
Would you rather win Grand Finals by not breaking the salary cap or voluntary tackles or withers invisible knock on........
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| Quote ="hamiltonsaint"when saints win i would rather win without the ref helping us out. the ref has helped sinfield and whinos in the past 2 games no on can deny that.'"
In 08 you just get the RFL to massage the ref rota so you don't get Smith after Anderson's rant and then Ganson is appointed to the Headingley clash. No help whatsoever there!
Why is it Stains fans are only truly happy when they p#ssing and whinging on our site.
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