I agree with the preparation part, but I tend to blame the organisers rather than the guests. I've never been to a wedding where you had to bring your own cake. That just wouldn't be cricket.

Either they invited 4999 more people than they had catered for, or 4999 uninvited guests turned up, in which case they should have been turned away. Feeding them only encourages anti-social behaviour.

For GODS sake stop it now will yer

whoops sorry

I view this the same was as Jesus' other miracles. This was Christ demonstrating his divinity and fulfilling the OT prophecies. I'm not poo-pooing your interpretation (in fact I consider it quite credible) but I believe this event literally happened in order to fulfil the prophecies.

All this Christian teachings about turning the other cheeck,and loving thy enemy,was never really practiced was it?wars have never ceased for 2000 years.Pre reforamation there was the inquisition.After the reformation the hanging drawing and quartering,then vice versa when Mary Tudor took the throne,then we had The Elizabethan police state back to hanging drawing and quartering,all sanctioned by devout christians on both sides.Vengeance is mine said the Lord,they must have forgot that message

You believe, he believes, we all believe (whatever we WANT to believe) together ....but how do you [uKNOW[/u ???

Nobody can say they catergorically KNOW. So what if you're wrong ?

For all you know your god might be a right b'stard having you believe what you believe when he fact all along his true chosen people are the Jehovah Witnesses ....



Still...I guess you're happy. Just let others - including our gay brothers and sisters - be happy too. For jehovah's sake.

There is one thing however that I cannot accept,understand ,grasp,Whatever.Is the theory by that professor in the wheelchair[sorry cant think of his name just nowthat that the Universe started from nothing.There was a big bang ,but there was nothing before the big bang,and it just started out of nothing.I cant get my head round that at all.

Stephen Hawking. I wouldn't worry about understanding the concepts involved in the origin of the universe - it's pretty out there. Similarly the concept both of infinity and of nothing.

Almost met Hawking once. In Barcelona. Was strolling up La Ramblas with the current Mrs D and she said "did you see who that was?". "See who who was?" I replied. "In that wheelchair". "What wheelchair?". Turns out he very nearly ran over my foot, but I was totally oblivious as I was too busy gawping at the behind of the lass walking in front of me. It was magnificent.

In fairness I don't think many can. The scientists don't really know and greater minds than ours have struggled to explain it. There are various theories. However, given time scientists have constantly historically come up with answers that (importantly) have to be emperically proven and understood by at least similarly clever minds before intoduced as fact. We are not asked to believe [uwithout[/u evidence. It's just that some cannot or will not have the capacity to appreciate that.

Most if not all religions live in fear of what science will next discover (Higgs Boson anyone) as a revelation that will challenge their accepted perceived wisdom, doctrine and their power. Either that or they will re-interpret their old dogma to wriggle and squirm their beliefs back into the realms of acceptability with their desperate-to-continue-believing followers.

Passing up the opportunity to meet one of the greatest minds of our generation in exchange for a good gawp at a young ladies posterior – I can go with that.

To be fair most liberal christians would use the big bang theory as an explanation of how god created the Universe as they wouldn't take the bible as a literal translation. The idea that god started off a chain reaction being the first mover like dominoes fits conveniently with many of their theories. However this to me is totally moving the goal posts as the story gets further and further away from the bible the better we understand the universe. Whilst some of the bible may be to be taken figuratively it seems a bit ridiculous to pick and chose what parts are and aren't to be taken literally or not, depending on what science has discovered basically.

I regret nothing

Even some of the bits we know are scientifically impossible are interpreted literally. Virgin births, resurrections, ascensions etc. All bollox, all believed to have literally happened by even the most liberal of Christians.

The other thing is - fish, and bread ?

"I'm hank marvin" the crowd all shout at Jesus
"We have some scran down here" replies Jesus
"Pass it back here then" shout the crowd in unison
"Its just raw fish and bread, okay ?" shouts Jesus
"Errr, we'll wait for our teas if its all the same to you" they shout then whisper to each other "What sort of fekkin messiah is this, raw fish, WTF?"

"AND ITS MY FEKKIN RAW FISH AS WELL, NOT HIS" shouts the fisherman at the front who was just actually walking home and not part of the sermon on the mount at all.

The problem with the concept of a god 'lighting the blue touch paper' is that it surely creates more questions than answers......for a starter who/what created the creator ??

Apparently we homo sapiens are too complex (with all our inherent crappy "design" faults like sinuses that drain upwards for example - in fact why give 'lesser animals' better vision range/hearing range etc??) .....too complex to have evolved from lesser creatures, BUT all god/allah believers are quite happy to accept that a, presumably, vastly superior complex being just 'appeared' or has 'always been there'

Sheesh.

Well a christian would simply answer that by that god always has been here, and always will be. Which makes no sense really because if they argue that every movement has to have a cause which is why they dismiss the big bang theory on the basis that there is no evidence to what caused it. However the first cause argument doesn't fit with the fact that if everything needs a cause then surely god does too, and if god has a cause then he is not the almighty creator. William Paley put forward the teleological argument with the watchmaker analogy that if you were walking through the country and found a pocket watch, you would have to assume there was an intelligent being behind it's construction. He would argue that all the intricate pieces which are required to work in tandom for the watch to operate are far too complex to have happened by chance. Therefore the complexity in nature and of the human body is far too complex to have come by chance as so many reactions and processes rely on them working together.

Of course this does not factor in the fact that humans and nature have evolved over millions of years and the pieces of the jigsaw have been fitted together over time, rather than the analogy of finding a watch in the country and it just appearing there through chance.

We're on the same wavelength

There is one thing I do know for sure,there are millions of athiests who are good and decent people so why should they be condemned to hell just because they dont belive in god?

Because they are not good, they are sinners.

They lie, steal, commit adultery and use the Lord;s name in vain. And that's only 4 of the 10 Commandments.

that reminds me of every congregation of every denomination of every christian church.Looks like you are going to have paradise to yourself

Christ

Bang on, the first part that is.

Christians sin as much as non-Christians. Certainly.

Type '[iKirk Cameron - How to use the Bible for witnessing about God, Heaven & Hell[/i' into a well-know video sharing website.

But if they ask forgiveness on their death bed (chuck in a couple of murders too) they're ok right ? However. no such luck if you're killed suddenly by chance ? Bit of a lottery aint it really. Hardly worth committing your life to the cause....I'm all for a life of debauchery, committing great sins then just hoping to ask for forgiveness on my death bed.

So When Christ ascended to heaven after the resurection,where on "on Earth ,or heaven"did he go?then of course there was the Muslim prophet Mohamed he also ascended to heaven.Do you accept the the Muslim prophet also ascended to heaven or was he just a false prophet?

Kirkstaller will have a prescribed answer for this I assure you.