Honestly get shut of Agar and the whole coaching set up. Our S&C is embarrassing. We look like its the end of a long season. Shot to bits.

No we don’t, there’s plenty of first choice players out there. Stop being ridiculous

Had he not grounded that in goal?

Walker having a shocker here

Oh do give over

Game 2.... that's all it took...

What's clear is that this insistance with so called middles isn't enough.

Lost it before the line

No, definitely not. Very poor effort by Walker, who is coming up well short here.

No, he lost it play.
Poor. We have fallen apart

Donaldson and Thompson straight off, both should be playing elsewhere.
We are so slow and unambitious on 6th tackle but this is garbage again, 2 weeks in.

Its been the same last few years. Players come into the season unfit and unprepared

Again??? We played well last week, albeit with 12 for most of it and 11 for some of it.

Getting totally dominated by a pretty average Wigan side.
We look out on our feet.
No leadership or direction whatsoever.
There's a lot to be concerned about here.

See where going to get the people ybat only post when we lose this week!

They aren't unfit. They've had arguably the best pre season in years with one of the best to do it with them in Hunwicks. We just aren't good enough tonight.

This proves gains a physical team we are at least one prop short when everyone is fit. Donno and Thompson are not the right players for Leeds.

I'm the non expert here - but Wigan are much the better side. This is against our best squad for years. Worrying.

I was referring to most of the last 6 and a bit seasons

And im not defending them here, were everything that we weren’t last week, weve been dire

Well it’s a pretty poor performance, not a great start to the season,, forwards look soft, half’s gone missing and walkers having a shocker. my only positive is my car broke today so watching at home instead of going over so switching over to reacher!!

Most knew this, Shame the coaching staff wasn't able to sign another of good quality

It's a great series!

My biggest issue is that we look soft. I can handle mistakes, players make them, but we look soft in the middle.

What did you expect? That back line is terrible, and the bench is shocking. We have petty much zero quality outside our first choice 17. That’s the reality…..