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| Quote ="jarol"Agree with this. Competition and cover for a place can only benefit the team. For me the one player who should be busting a gut to keep his place is Hurrell. Even at a reduced salary he is at this moment not value for money. Now if this is because we are not creating enough space / chances for him that is another matter.I think Martin has done enough to warrant a contact extension. In Thompson can the club justify using a quota spot?'" Thompson has another year on his contract which i doubt will be renewed.Martin is playing well but we are over loaded in the back row.I would rather we use the Hurrel and Martin monies to sign a prop and winger.
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| I think we'll play with split halves, and Austin will play full back.
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| Quote ="Jack Burton"I think we'll play with split halves, and Austin will play full back.'"
Why when Myler is one of the best full backs in the league and we have Jack Walker coming back?
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| Quote ="Jack Burton"I think we'll play with split halves, and Austin will play full back.'"
I like how Myler has risen to the challenge of Full Back. His positional play is much improved, he's very brave, and he's really sharpened up the left side. On the other hand he's rarely seen on the right. Top. Full backs generally have the athleticism to attack down both flanks. Think Austin, where ever he plays, can do this.
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| I think he's definitely been signed due to his excellent relationship with Sezer and most definitely to put pressure on Gale.
I really like how Austin has said he wants to earn a longer deal long term and prove himself to the club. That's a great honest attitude.
Well done Leeds, that's a very shrewd buy.
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| Quote ="Jack Burton"I think we'll play with split halves, and Austin will play full back.'" Has Austin played there before?
Next season I expect Myler and Walker to battle it out for the fullback spot.
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| I'm still not convinced Walker will play in the first team too often next season. I think the club will be very careful with him and he'll play mostly in the reserves.
Myler has been great, but I think Austin could be even better in that position. If he'd have come through a few years later, he'd probably have been a FB anyway.
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| I'd say the initial intention is a 6/7 combination with Sezer and Austin. Having effectively an NRL first grade half back combination (admittedly maybe not on current form) is a rare treat for a SL club.
If Walker doesn't make it, and Myler is injured or whatever, at least in Austin we have a credible cover. The only other worthwhile options we have are L Sutcliffe and Broadbent, who I'd much rather see develop at centre/wing.
Austin will get game time for sure next year. The other thing is that this signing helps with our pre-season prep. It gives us more skill, more for Sean Long to work with, and more options to play with. Contrast that with this recent pre-season where we didn't have a fit half back throughout pretty much.
It's also a sign of how far the club has come. Other clubs and players can see Leeds is on the rise again now, it's a club people want to join again. That in itself makes us more dangerous as we can attract better quality players (and juniors) without having to pay ransoms because we're a basket case.
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| :: Quote ="Jack Burton"I'm still not convinced Walker will play in the first team too often next season. I think the club will be very careful with him and he'll play mostly in the reserves.
Myler has been great, but I think Austin could be even better in that position. If he'd have come through a few years later, he'd probably have been a FB anyway.'" If Walker's operation has been successful then there is no reason why Walker shouldn't be pushing for the number 1 spot.
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| Very good signing for me.
We all said we needed a running 6 to complement the organising 7.
And we were all a bit perplexed when the club signed Sezer, as we already had Gale.
Sezer and Austin makes perfect sense and I think it signals the end for Gale.
He may well sit out the year at Leeds, but given his average performances and ridiculous suspensions, he will be third choice.
I think we retain Martin and release Hurrell.
A new prop depends on what we do with King.
We do need a winger, but both Briscoes have done OK lately (other than the odd Tom brain fart).
Club might leave that until next year.
Also, Myler has been a revelation at FB, so no urgency for that. We can ease Walker back in and keep using Myler there.
Bentley, Sezer, Austin and most importantly Prior is very good business so far.
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| Quote ="Simmo71"Very good signing for me.
We all said we needed a running 6 to complement the organising 7.
And we were all a bit perplexed when the club signed Sezer, as we already had Gale.
Sezer and Austin makes perfect sense and I think it signals the end for Gale.
He may well sit out the year at Leeds, but given his average performances and ridiculous suspensions, he will be third choice.
I think we retain Martin and release Hurrell.
A new prop depends on what we do with King.
We do need a winger, but both Briscoes have done OK lately (other than the odd Tom brain fart).
Club might leave that until next year.
Also, Myler has been a revelation at FB, so no urgency for that. We can ease Walker back in and keep using Myler there.
Bentley, Sezer, Austin and most importantly Prior is very good business so far.'"
Can't think of a year in recent memory that our recruitment has been anywhere near this good.
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| Quote ="Jack Burton"I'm still not convinced Walker will play in the first team too often next season. I think the club will be very careful with him and he'll play mostly in the reserves.'"
I think you're probably right. Given the roster, I wouldn't be surprised if we weren't open to him finding first team rugby elsewhere if he can get fit
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"Reading between the lines here, Leeds are signing Austin as a half. The fact he might be able to cover some other positions is a bonus, but Agar talks about recruiting depth into every position, and they identified that half back was a weak area.
The club isn't going to put it in the public domain that they're frustrated with Gale and want a decent back-up if he gets injured/throws his toys/gets suspended/loses form next year.
Gale will get that, and either choose to stay and fight for his place, or go somewhere else. I suspect he will stay with the intention of finishing his career off with Leeds (on a no doubt decent contract). By the way I wouldn't fault Gale's commitment to the club and his passion for it, and he is still a quality player on his day no doubt.
This also throws a decision at McLelland, whether he's willing to sit behind three first grade half backs or get first team elsewhere.
I imagine the 1-year makes sense for both. If Austin forces his way in, he gets an upgraded and extended contract with the funds released when Gale finishes (can't see him being retained after this contract).
Overall, decent signing in context. I'd like to see something at Wing or FB and I still wonder whether we are light one specialist prop but those are relatively minor issues now. We should have a very competitive side next season.'"
McLelland is not even in the equation, he’s gone simply not good enough.
I don’t rate Austin show pony nothing more, but agree he maybe a great fit with Sezar and Myler at full back, and also like to see Cameron Smith move to a more out an out ball playing 13.
Gale can fight for a place, up his game, or I suspect will take his bat n ball home and move on.
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| Unsurprising,does put a question over Gale tho abit.
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"Can't think of a year in recent memory that our recruitment has been anywhere near this good.'"
Me neither. Not been this excited for new signings since we signed Lauatiti
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Briscoe, Newman, Sutcliffe, Handley
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Tetevano
Could be something like our first 17 next year and with Gale, Walker, Gannon, Walters, O’Connor, Edwards, Dwyer, Donaldson, Broadbent, Tindall and some others in reserve, that’s not a terrible option.
I can see both Hurrell and Martin leaving looking at that.
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| Doesnt Austin signing confirm one of Hurrell or Martin isn't staying?
I think the club will offer Martin a deal.
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| If the cap allows i think Martin will be offered a deal. I think he has been pretty consistent last few weeks since he got over the after effects of Covid. He is also the best goal kicker in the league which is a bonus
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| Personally I’d let King go. If you’re taking an overseas spot you need to be a better player imo but it may come down to money and that could mean Hurrell going.
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| It is what it is but the club seems to be playing hardball with the three OS players - agree to our offered terms or off you go. I imagine both Hurrell and Martin might be on inflated contracts based on where Leeds are now, and based on form.
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| I think King might want to try get a starting spot somewhere from an interview I read, which may mean he goes and Martin and Hurrell stay on reduced terms.
Personally the player id like to see go is Thompson but unfortunately he’s still in contract
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| I think Martin would be the biggest loss overall if he left. If he sad to see Hurrell go, because he is a genuine weapon, but I think he's so hot and cold that he doesn't positively impact us enough overall. Martin is an 80min player and grafts all day long, and his goal kicking can be the difference in tight games
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| Quote ="christopher"I think King might want to try get a starting spot somewhere from an interview I read, which may mean he goes and Martin and Hurrell stay on reduced terms.
Personally the player id like to see go is Thompson but unfortunately he’s still in contract'"
I'm still annoyed we sacrificed a quota spot for 3 years in order to grab a bargain basement back row/middle cover. Thompson does have some quality but it was a crazy decision and he (predictably) hasn't contributed too much.
To some extent it doesn't really matter which of the three we retain, because we do have cover across the park now - or we could use salary released to try to balance the squad a bit more (e.g. winger).
Interesting times. Dressing room dynamics and players' training discipline will come into play in these decisions too. All we see is the end result.
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| Quote ="Trebor1"Personally I’d let King go. If you’re taking an overseas spot you need to be a better player imo but it may come down to money and that could mean Hurrell going.'" King plays in a position where we are short so if he goes he needs to be replaced. Personally I would like to add another prop so that would mean probably releasing both Martin and Hurrell
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| Quote ="fanstanningley"King plays in a position where we are short so if he goes he needs to be replaced. Personally I would like to add another prop so that would mean probably releasing both Martin and Hurrell'"
True but he maybe doesn't need to be replaced with an OS player
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