Quote ="rawzy!"the fight in block 109 was started by your lot but our so called "fans" that took the bait are honestly just as bad. i would say though that the group of leeds fans at the bottom were givving gestures and nice person signs aat all the wire fans in our end not a very smart move, they then started throwing beers at different warrington fans one hit a young girl in the face so the dad got up angrily and pushed the leeds fan down the stairs he was then chased up the stairs and more wire fans jumped up to have a fight and just people that were next to the fight had to as the leeds fans were that smashed they just hit anyone who was near them www.flickr.com/photos/garyskent/ ... 7908/show/ there is a pic of what happened it is a bit through the slide show just go through it at the bottom'" Great pictures i would like to see the picture the guy in the crowd is taking whos stood above the morons fighting .

Quote ="rawzy!"the fight in block 109 was started by your lot but our so called "fans" that took the bait are honestly just as bad. i would say though that the group of leeds fans at the bottom were givving gestures and nice person signs aat all the wire fans in our end not a very smart move, they then started throwing beers at different warrington fans one hit a young girl in the face so the dad got up angrily and pushed the leeds fan down the stairs he was then chased up the stairs and more wire fans jumped up to have a fight and just people that were next to the fight had to as the leeds fans were that smashed they just hit anyone who was near them www.flickr.com/photos/garyskent/ ... 7908/show/ there is a pic of what happened it is a bit through the slide show just go through it at the bottom'" Great pictures i would like to see the picture the guy in the crowd is taking whos stood above the morons fighting .

Its the booze IMO. As has been stated on here in previous forums people get tanked up before big finals and then their mouths run away with themselves. Some of the neutral fans do my head in. I sat next to some Hull fans who just watched the game and clapped both teams. How it should be. Then there were some muppets a few rows back just chanting 'Leeds scum' all the time. A Leeds fan had a word then a steward got involved. Pathetic.

Banning booze in the ground would not help. I saw a large number of fans drunk at Watford Gap services at 10 AM.

There were a few guys necking beers in the queue for the coaches at 7.00 in the morning. Thankfully they weren't allowed to drink on the coaches otherwise they'd be in a right state.

I enjoy a few beers on a matchday but I don't see any need to get so smashed?

What about drunks not being allowed entry into the stadium?

After all Airlines have the power to refuse drunken passengers onto a plane so why not sports grounds (it may even say something about it in the ground regulations on the tickets?)

If you end up being seated anywhere near these sorts of morans it just ruins your enjoyment of the game

Yep i'd go along with this.
Unfortunately we won't get these stadiums to stop selling beer because it rakes in so much £££ for them especially when they are way over-priced so an admission policy is the only way imo.

They can do that already - but don't.

Its a simple formula - empty the pockets of your punters with massively over-priced and often poor quality alcohol (how many pubs do you know that shut down for two weeks in between sessions and still hold a pretence of knowing how to keep beer), and let the stewards deal (sometimes) with the handful who abuse the privilege.

You take the money every time and sod the inconvenience to anyone else, after all, the stadium still sold out didn't it ?

Here is what I have posted on the Warrington forum. Please note I have not used the word fan to describe anyone who was part of the trouble.

This incident was in the next bock to us along the same row. There were two guys inparticular wearing light blue and white striped shirts who had been goading people around them most of the game. Clearly under the influence of beer. A number of times people ad asked them to calm down and just enjoy the day. Their behaviour had been reported to the stewards a number of times too. Sadly when it all kicked off big time it was because a man in a Warrington away shirt squared up to one of the men and pushed him down stairs causing others to react with fists.

True fans around this incident did the right thing IMO and let them get on with it but just roundly booed them till the stewards escourted everyone involved out of the ground.

Not nice to see and very upsetting for the children who were near to the incident and had to witness it, like my daughter who was in tears for 5 minutes. She thought I was telling her off when I told her not to watch the fight but watch the game instead. Thanks for that you idiots.

Put a bit of a tar on a fantastic day. Someone has posted a video of the end of the incident on a popular video viewing sight.

Hope your only joking but if not you should be truely ashamed of yourself

Asked a few Leeds fans what happened because I was at the opposite end so couldn't really see who was fighting. They told me it wasn't the Rhinos fans it was actually Leeds Utd fans, instead of going to Watford for the football they decided to go down to Wembley buy tickets off touts and got in the Warrington end. If you look at the pictures theres not actually that many wearing Rhinos shirts. I don't know how it started or who was involved but I don't think either sides are innocent here, both were as bad as each other.

Let's hope it's stopped before it turns into football crowds.

On a personal note though I did find some Warrington fans very aggressive on my way back to the coach. Wanting fights was glad to get back to my coach away from them.

You can't describe any of them as "fans" and this "it was LUFC" fans not Rhinos ones smacks of the Hull lot blaming City fans.
They are NOT FANS they are sh#8houses of the highest quality.

Agreed - we once had a bog brush thrown at us by some travelling supporters at Headingley - these trouble makers need banning by the RFL.

a shame really, I went to Cardiff with my Wigan shirt on about 10 years ago, with a Leeds scarf and a Bradford hat. Awesome reception from fans but the last 5 or 6 years seems to be a lot more trouble at games. Our issue at our club is the ale, mix that with spotty faced chavs and its a cocktail of bother.

These aren't real rugby league fans and never will be. I've been to a few magic weekends as a Wigan supporter and sit in the Saints end with my Saints supporting girlfriend. Nothing ever kicks off and there's always good banter beteween the supporters. The worst you get is "shut up you muppet" when I invarably start singing along with the Wigan fans etc.

The problem with the Challenge cup is the fact that you get a lot of people attending who don't watch rugby league (or even worse, are used to football crowds) and don't understand that this sort of thing is not what real rugby fans expect.

The above idiot should be banned firstly from this site and if any information is known about him given to aouthorities e mail etc.

Their does seem to be some footage of what happened in 109 and lets hope it's used and they are caught.
Us the fans of this great game need to make sure this scum don't ruin our reputation. I have been in the west stand with Leeds fans on a couple of occasions and had some really good natured banter.

I would like to think that the trouble in the east end of the ground on saturday were neither Warrington or Leeds fans just morons that wore and shamed the shirt on the day.

Why should those of us who can have a bevvy or two and behave ourselves be punished for this minority though?!

While we are at it, perhaps we should ban all dogs because of a minority of irresponsible owners or ban all cars because of a minority of s on the roads?

Identify and punish those at fault without punishing everyone.

You obviously are unable to recognise Richie’s childish brand of sarcasm – he was probably drunk when he posted this but top marks for your OTT kneejerk reaction.

All the FANS on the Wolves side will agree with all the FANS on here that these idiots do not appear to be real fans and probably saw the final as an excuse to go out for a p###-up for the day. Of all the games that could possibly provide TV/CCTV/Photo proof this was perhaps the one that the RFL etc get the most evidence of those involved. Lets chuck the book at them and support both our clubs when it takes action against these pi###cks.

Personlly I had no problem with the Leeds fans on Saturday. Good banter before hand and after the game.

The key issue is how do we stop it. As a long established football fan I got fed up with the premier league when my team started playing one up front at home. I was attracted to RL by the effort demanded in the sport, the committment of the players and the ability to stand up and watch the game with a pint or two. As a result I have been following leeds home and away for the last 5 years and this was my fourth CC final. When we playes away at Saints a couple of years back the weather was so bad that all the Saints fans from the open end moved to the traditional away end at half time and a crucial match was played with large sections of opposing fans stood next to each other. No trouble, great banter and a truly super experience. This sadly does not apply to the big finals where the number of drunks attending provides a significant risk of spoiling the day. Stopping the sale of drink in the stadium would not work and would punish those who enjoy this facility. Personally for final I now tend to have a drink or two well away from the ground prior to arriving and getting into the stadium as quickly as possible. Then its all down to luck in terms of where you are sat and who you are sat with. To date we have been lucky but we cant pretend it doesnt happen and we need to do something about it. To date I have been captured by the geat spirit of RL but cant imagine any new fan experiencing the issues raised here returning for another match! So how do we take the random risk element out of such occasions without limiting the opportunities of the responsible majority?

There's always been potential for a bit of off field biff at Wembley. I remember late 70's, 77 or 78, being involved with some emotional Widnes supporters before the big match, when a bit of banter got up there noses.

Did they start the punch up?...yes

Did we tw@@t them?....yes

Did they run away for reinforcements?....yes

Did they return with a whole coachload of the ugliest fookers outside of Castleford?....yes

Did we then make a strategic withdrawl?...yes

Did anybody die?.....NO

Early morning starts, plus a load of ale, can sometimes end in tears, or a ride in the nice policeman's car.

I saw it all kick off from where we were (in the corner at wire end) it was not good. "Wire" and "leeds" fans involved a man was trying to protect his child who was crying in the middle of the mele.What is the need in idiots ruining our game?

I agree with you. The wire fans, Leeds fans and neutrals that go and watch there own teams week in week out would never dream of causing trouble, specially at the showpiece game of the season. Unfortunatly warrington and leeds would have attracted a fair amount of day trippers who couldn't give a stuff about the reputations of these two fine clubs. I don't think the truth will ever be known about the identities of these idiots but i would'nt bet against that these were the day trippers. I had a great day last saturday, went to the premier inn before and after the match where they had an outdoor bar and music. It was filled with leeds, wire, hull, KR, saints, wigan, etc etc and the thing that stood out was everywhere you looked was groups of fans in different club shirts all having a laugh and giving predictions.

thanks for all the input from true rl fans and this thread, should, end here with this from matty wire 75. which for me sums up the true nature of rugby league ,everyone having a great
banter!!!!
pee wee hunt

It was Cas Fans-FACT.

I don't normally troll on other boards therefore, i don't know individual poster on here, feel a right tool now mate

wow did i go off on one