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| Quote ="The Joker®"Did we have the squad (strength in depth) capable of winning the League Leaders Shield, Challenge Cup and Grand Final this season?, We will never know but my answer would be i don't think so...'"
No, evidently not as you are out.
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| Quote ="Eurob0y"Do St Helens?'"
Probably not but quality of coaching may make up the difference.
At the moment the performance has been greater than the sum of it's parts for the last three weeks.
That's usually down to good coaching.
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| Quote ="Eurob0y"Do St Helens?'"
I don't think they do either to be honest but they recruited better than Leeds due to the Eastwood saga...
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| Quote ="morpeth rhino"I'd certainly have enjoyed beating saints simply because I hate scousers '" Pray tell me my yorkshire pudding eating friend, what has one got to do with the other. As for the Challenge Cup, it's easy to say "not bothered, mickey mouse cup etc" when you're out of the comp, lets see what you have to say the next time you venture beyond a semi-final. Oh and yes beaten in the last two GF's by the better team on the day but thats in the past .....good luck for the rest of the season now move on
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| Quote ="Saddened!"No, evidently not as you are out.'"
Not sh*t Sherlock hence why i wrote [i"We will never know"[/i...
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| Morpeth this for you ,the RFL will not drop the C Cup its the worlds best RL competion and yes plenty of people are intrested, its funny your not now your team are out.
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| i would loved to have won it but if i had a choice nowadays it would be the GF.
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| I'd bring back the Regal trophy, but with the style of...
Only Super League Teams compete, grand finalists the year before straight through to the quarter finals, random draw, 6 out of the 12 remaining teams go through, 8 teams left straight knock out, regarded as a sort of mickey mouse cup but something the lower teams can win. And perhaps midweek game 5 maybe 4 days to recover, play your super league game on the Friday, the trophy game on Wednesday then the next Super League game on the Sunday, have the final around May. Just an idea.
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| Quote ="efcrhino"I'd bring back the Regal trophy, but with the style of...
Only Super League Teams compete, grand finalists the year before straight through to the quarter finals, random draw, 6 out of the 12 remaining teams go through, 8 teams left straight knock out, regarded as a sort of mickey mouse cup but something the lower teams can win. And perhaps midweek game 5 maybe 4 days to recover, play your super league game on the Friday, the trophy game on Wednesday then the next Super League game on the Sunday, have the final around May. Just an idea.'"
great idea. more games for the players to be knackered in
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| Damo's got some competition at last.
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| Quote ="BOYD2"Morpeth this for you ,the RFL will not drop the C Cup its the worlds best RL competion and yes plenty of people are intrested, its funny your not now your team are out.
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its an anachronism thta is holding back british international RL. It should have gone with the switch to summer rugby. We can lose in the first round every year from here to eternity as far as I am concerned. If we are forced to keep this relic from the 70s competition (with its relic qulaity of coverage from the bbc) leeds should have used the comp as a way of blooding more youngsters like Arsenal do with a similar meaningless competition in the league cup.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"I agree gutted to have lost but there is the small consolation of time off.'"
Yes absolutely, keep on rolling!!
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| Quote ="tvoc"Probably not but quality of coaching may make up the difference.
At the moment the performance has been greater than the sum of it's parts for the last three weeks.
That's usually down to good coaching.'"
Bearing in mind we've finished top 4 years running and won the cup 3 years running, maybe it's Leeds' performance that has been greater than the sum of it's parts on a couple of occasions at Old Trafford . . . . .
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Bearing in mind we've finished top 4 years running and won the cup 3 years running, maybe it's Leeds' performance that has been greater than the sum of it's parts on a couple of occasions at Old Trafford . . . . .'"
No doubt and it all counts.
The finishing top was fairly marginal in 2007 and 2008 though so neither team were exactly without hope at Old Trafford. St Helens involvement in the CC possibly worked to Leeds advantage then as well. So Leeds will be praying for another Saints hangover/overconfidence meltdown come October.
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| Quote ="morpeth rhino"its an anachronism thta is holding back british international RL. It should have gone with the switch to summer rugby. We can lose in the first round every year from here to eternity as far as I am concerned. If we are forced to keep this relic from the 70s competition '"
Yes absolutely because the Challenge Cup and Rugby League itself didn't exist before the 70's.
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| Quote ="morpeth rhino"its an anachronism thta is holding back british international RL. It should have gone with the switch to summer rugby. We can lose in the first round every year from here to eternity as far as I am concerned. If we are forced to keep this relic from the 70s competition (with its relic qulaity of coverage from the bbc) leeds should have used the comp as a way of blooding more youngsters like Arsenal do with a similar meaningless competition in the league cup.'"
I assume the WCC is important? Actually, probably not since you lost it this year.
Was the CC mickey mouse when you beat London? Or did it only become mickey mouse when you realised you couldn't win it any more no matter how hard you try?
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| Quote ="morpeth rhino"its an anachronism thta is holding back british international RL. '"
How is it holding back international RL? The 2 finalists have to play a maximum of 5 games in the CC.
Last year in the cup Saints played:
4th Round v London Skolars
5th Round v Warrington
Quarter Final v Hull KR
Semi-Final v Leeds
Final v Hull
and Hull played:
4th Round v Rochdale
5th Round v Widnes
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Semi-Final v Wakefield
Final v Saints
The Aussies play 3 State of Origin games. Mid-week. Not to mention the higher standard of competition all season long.
Which is the tougher game?
Rochdale or New South Wales?
Quote ="morpeth rhino"It should have gone with the switch to summer rugby.'"
Why? Not all change is good you know.
Quote ="morpeth rhino"If we are forced to keep this relic from the 70s competition (with its relic qulaity of coverage from the bbc) leeds should have used the comp as a way of blooding more youngsters like Arsenal do with a similar meaningless competition in the league cup.'"
You're conveniently ignoring the FA Cup. (you know, the one thats similar to the RL Challenge Cup.) How are Arsenal treating that this year?
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| Quote ="morpeth rhino"its an anachronism thta is holding back british international RL. It should have gone with the switch to summer rugby. We can lose in the first round every year from here to eternity as far as I am concerned. If we are forced to keep this relic from the 70s competition (with its relic qulaity of coverage from the bbc) leeds should have used the comp as a way of blooding more youngsters like Arsenal do with a similar meaningless competition in the league cup.'"
Did you watch Rugby League before you got Sky?
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| The Challenge Cup is a showpiece event broadcast nationally and with a 70k plus attendance.
Anyone who doesn't want that for their club or doesn't think the game needs it is an idiot.
Mind you, I'd still take a Grand Final win over it...
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| Quote ="morpeth rhino"If we are forced to keep this relic from the 70s competition (with its relic qulaity of coverage from the bbc) leeds should have used the comp as a way of blooding more youngsters like Arsenal do with a similar meaningless competition in the league cup.'"
I think you'll find that the CC is a tad older than 30 years. I think it goes pretty much right back to the beginning of rugby league as a sport. Didn't Batley win the first Challenge Cup trophy? That'll give you an idea how far back it goes!
And I didn't think the BBC did too badly on Sunday, even if they were naff on the promotion of it. It's also the comp which brings maximum exposure for the successful teams and it's got a buzz about it still that the Grand Final lacks.
The Grand Final is very much about the Superleague; the Challenge Cup is a celebration of RL in its entirety IMO. I think this is why I feel the Challenge Cup is still very much worth keeping.
The RFL should put some serious effort into reinvigorating the comp so that all clubs feel like they may just be the giantkillers this season and they should be more proactive when they renegotiate the deal with the BBC so that they take us more seriously.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Didn't Batley win the first Challenge Cup trophy? '"
Yes they did.
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| Quote ="King Monkey"Yes they did.'"
Was that the game that you took four chavs on at the train station?
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| Quote ="The Magic Wand"Was that the game that you took four chavs on at the train station?'"
Thanks for confirming you are a softcock coward alias.
No. That was the Wakefield away game last eason.
HTH
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Didn't Batley win the first Challenge Cup trophy? That'll give you an idea how far back it goes!'"
At Headingley against Saints I believe.
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| Quote ="King Monkey"Yes they did.'"
And the second I think
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