It's a trophy and a hard fought one no matter who or how many people try to play it down just look at last years match to see how fierce the matches can be.
Imo we have earned the right to challenge for this trophy and i for one take it seriously.
Granted i'd rather the super-league title and cc before it but it's a final i definately want to win.

Yes, im going as I go to all the games I can regardless of thier importance. To me though its below winning the league leaders trophy and a long way below the CC and especially the GF. As I say, it is nice to win because you get a nice little title but I dont jump up and down or get emotional at those games like I would a proper final.


Also its not reallt tampering when we have no other option. Gibson is a stronger candidate to be playing than allan IMO. He is better going forward an a lot better in defence. Gibson played Loose when he was in the academy for a bit too so im sure if needed he could cover there too

To be honest I go to the games and look forward to them without having to check an 'Importance Meter'. It's a big occasion IMO, the chance to be back to back world and domestic champions!!! Come on that hardly occurs often, and what's the likely-hood of it happening again? And I thought you as a NRL bummer would look forward to us going against our foreign counter part champions. And an opportunity for a partizan crowd and possible silverware to be won at Elland Road shouldn't be overlooked. rhinoms as hit the nail on the head with last years WCC reference, you don't see much tougher than that. Go have a word with yourself son.

Jeez, what fantasy do you have about the little feller? Whatever, it's not right you know!

I get plenty of chance to see them in full meaningful action thank you. In fact every NRL game I have been to has been close and intense with no more than 6 points in it



Dont get me wrong, if we win I will be happy because Im a Leeds fan but the emotions have never run high for this game for some reason. As long as it's a top quaity trial I will be happy.

This may annoy a few on here though but IMO Manly by 10-15

They've lost brent kite,steve bell and beaver from the grand final triumph don't forget so get yer excuses in early


Rhinos by 8

It won't, your voice holds no meaning.



You just get back to thinking about Fallon's mop and w*nking over the memory of Danny Williams playing in the second row.

Brent Kite is an undoubted loss and was the main reason I got a ticket for the game. Im a big lover of forward play and the chance to see who I regard as the best prop in the world was going to be a great oportunity. As it is now i feel a tad dissapointed but hey ho, what can you do.

Menzies is past it hence his move to Bradford. If he was still good enough to play NRL then the would have dropped someone else out of the squad instead of telling him that he wont fit under the cap. Plus Watmough and Stewart are both excellent 2nd Rows who would stroll into our team as 1st choice 2nd rows.

Bell was good but again they are still strong.

Just a look at the team that starts is mouth watering. They also have arguably the best attacking FB in the world. His strike rate in the NRL is something to behold and in Orford they have someone who can organise the attack and break down the defence with no problem at all.

Never a lover of Williams. Didnt have the hands to make a good SL player. Got to love Jims hair though... damn that was a good mop

I wonder what the big Jimbo's up to these days? I know he finished playing up at Bath, but I wonder what he's doing outside of rugby in 2009?

Hair stylist maybe?

He was an accountant when he signed for Leeds. Perhaps something along those lines if the hairdressing fell through.

Professionally trained, public school boy? From union? Never gonna happen.



I didn't see the hairdressing coming up.

Whatever he's doing, I hope his health is holding up. He had to retire from playing aged 33 following two operations on a detached retina and some loss of sight in his right eye.

SL site says Jones-Bishop in the squad, no JJB, is that a misprint? www.superleague.co.uk/preview.php?id=3645

SL site says Jones-Bishop in the squad, no JJB, is that a misprint? www.superleague.co.uk/preview.php?id=3645

Quote ="EAST HULL RED"SL site says Jones-Bishop in the squad, no JJB, is that a misprint? www.superleague.co.uk/preview.php?id=3645'" Must be. JJB definately in Squad. I thought BJB was recovering from injury.

Quote ="EAST HULL RED"SL site says Jones-Bishop in the squad, no JJB, is that a misprint? www.superleague.co.uk/preview.php?id=3645'" Must be. JJB definately in Squad. I thought BJB was recovering from injury.

Quote ="LS14 RHINO"Must be. JJB definately in Squad. I thought BJB was recovering from injury.'" Just checked your official site... www.therhinos.co.uk/news/617.php

Quote ="LS14 RHINO"Must be. JJB definately in Squad. I thought BJB was recovering from injury.'" Just checked your official site... www.therhinos.co.uk/news/617.php

Quote ="EAST HULL RED"SL site says Jones-Bishop in the squad, no JJB, is that a misprint? www.superleague.co.uk/preview.php?id=3645'" I'd think so given taht the players are in squad number order

Quote ="EAST HULL RED"SL site says Jones-Bishop in the squad, no JJB, is that a misprint? www.superleague.co.uk/preview.php?id=3645'" I'd think so given taht the players are in squad number order

He was supposed to be back this week.

Huge task now if he's gonner make his first appearance in the WCC

Quote ="EAST HULL RED"SL site says Jones-Bishop in the squad, no JJB, is that a misprint? www.superleague.co.uk/preview.php?id=3645'" Opta are never wrong.

Quote ="EAST HULL RED"SL site says Jones-Bishop in the squad, no JJB, is that a misprint? www.superleague.co.uk/preview.php?id=3645'" Opta are never wrong.

For me:

Smith
Hall
Gibson
Watkins
Donald
McGuire
McShane
Leulai
Buderus
Peacock
JJB
Senior
Sinfield

Diskin
Kirke
Ablett
Burgess

2 Hookers maybe but 3!

I'm Hearing Danny Buderus Is Injured, And Paul McShane Will Be On The Bench...

What is his injury?