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| Agreed, the message from GH on the club site does smack a little of emotional blackmail to get him to stick with us.
Anyone, coach, player or staff who doesn't want to be here should be released as soon as they show that desire and if appropriate the fans should be informed why they wanted to leave.
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| If the worst happens and Furner reneges were in a right mess. He's been central in recruiting Hurrell (where does this leave him?) and apparently is right in the midst of all our player negotiations in Oz. Could be a disaster this.
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| Quote ="The Magic Rat"Whether there is a get out clause or not is immaterial imo. If he doesn't want to come, then release him from the contract.'"
Yes, we need this sorting asap, he either commits to us within 24-48 hours or we actively find a replacement.or hopefully that is what GH has told furner...
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| Quote ="FGB"If the worst happens and Furner reneges were in a right mess. He's been central in recruiting Hurrell (where does this leave him?) and apparently is right in the midst of all our player negotiations in Oz. Could be a disaster this.'"
Hurrell will still be on his way over as he’s contracted to Leeds.
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| As is Furner?
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| It’s 3:30am in Sydney, one way or another this is over in 5-6 hours.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"It’s 3:30am in Sydney, one way or another this is over in 5-6 hours.'"
It was 5pm Sydney time when we were all finding out. It could have/should have been over today.
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| Quote ="Rhinoshaund III"It was 5pm Sydney time when we were all finding out. It could have/should have been over today.'"
Which is why he isn't coming.
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| Looks that way. Never any guarantee of success in any case though sure to cause disruption.
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| He’s not coming is he? Another mugging off from that mob over there. No wonder the game is on its over here.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Hurrell will still be on his way over as he’s contracted to Leeds.'"
As was Wendell Sailor with Wigan
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| Quote ="Sgy Loiner"He’s not coming is he? Another mugging off from that mob over there. No wonder the game is on its booty over here.'" Only bothered about themselves and nobody outside of the NRL
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| If he does renege, he will go way down in my estimation as its a sh@tty thing to do.
Lets wait and see
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| Should think he will go down in everyone's estimations.
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| phone call tomorrow.
are you coming? anything but a straight yes we move on. plenty of quality out there.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"phone call tomorrow.
are you coming? anything but a straight yes we move on. plenty of quality out there.'"
This, but in an hour and a half. Then we announce the result on the website and via social media. Anything else looks too much like fudging it whilst he makes his mind up.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"This, but in an hour and a half. Then we announce the result on the website and via social media. Anything else looks too much like fudging it whilst he makes his mind up.'"
Exactly. Nearly 7am in Sydney. If I was Gary I wouldnt be going to bed without an answer tonight!
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| Gutting though it would be, you can’t hold it against him. Think about if a better opportunity came up for you in your job you’d have to take it, you can’t travel across the world just to appease others.
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| Arses are twitching over Kippax way
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| I'm sure I'll be in the minority here, but I would have no ill feeling towards him if he backflips. The reason why; he'd be absolutely stupid to turn it down.
He's not even officially started here, and let's say he does now have the option of South's, his choices are;
1 - Honour his word to Leeds, move him and his family to other side of the world, changing schools, leaving friends, worse climate and standard of living etc etc to coach in the vastly inferior SL competition, carrying out a pretty tough rebuild job, at a club where winning comps as become expected, but the squad needs a major overhaul
2 - Stay in Sydney, with zero change to family circumstances, to coach a team where he already works, with some of the best players in the world, who are a genuine challenger for the NRL title.
Head coaching gigs in the NRL will not come available that often to a relatively rookie coach, certainly not at clubs the size and stature of South's.
It's absolutely in his best interests, he has to do what's best for him and his family, and I very much doubt anyone else would choose option 1 if they're really honest.
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| Quote ="Seth"Gutting though it would be, you can’t hold it against him. Think about if a better opportunity came up for you in your job you’d have to take it, you can’t travel across the world just to appease others.'"
It’s a tough one, you have to balance the opportunities and your integrity. There isn’t a right answer, everyone will see it slightly differently. I’m looking at it from a business perspective, there isn’t much time to hang around, decisions need to be made and alternatives lined up if it’s a no.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"It’s a tough one, you have to balance the opportunities and your integrity. There isn’t a right answer, everyone will see it slightly differently. I’m looking at it from a business perspective, there isn’t much time to hang around, decisions need to be made and alternatives lined up if it’s a no.'"
I think in this situation having integrity would be about being upfront in your decision and not leaving anyone hanging so that leeds can move on.
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| IMO it's obvious that Furner and Souths have been involved in dialogue well before this story even broke,
So both will know full well of the circumstances involved in this matter and at what point Furner would become head coach of Souths due to Seibold being removed from the role.
The silence today was deafening for the Rhinos club sadly due to the non denial of the story when it first broke over in OZ when it was clearly possible to do so.
IMO Furner is holding out for the conclusion of the Souths debacle to draw to a close so that he can hedge his bets and keep both options open.
If Furner doesn't fully commit to coaching the Rhinos by tomorrow morning our time then I would tell him to go get fffed and we should move on and decide on our next coaching options.
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| Quote ="Seth"I think in this situation having integrity would be about being upfront in your decision and not leaving anyone hanging so that leeds can move on.'"
I get what your saying, there’s a different set of priorities depending on which pair of shoes you are stood in.
To me, integrity is about doing what you say you are going to do in an inclusive and fair way. People have different definitions of the same words.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"I get what your saying, there’s a different set of priorities depending on which pair of shoes you are stood in.
To me, integrity is about doing what you say you are going to do in an inclusive and fair way. People have different definitions of the same words.'"
I’d generally agree though I don’t think one definition applies the same in all situations.
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