5 from 7 would be very good. 5 from 7 and still in the cup would be excellent. Fingers crossed.

I’ve said for years we need pace at Halback, to suite the way we play. Imagine Croft with a fast runner/finisher off him. Say French!

Croft and French would not work.

Croft is no slouch, he is the running halfback, you need an organising one alongside either Croft or French.

You ditched radio this year for Sky?

Really enjoyed the first half but credit to Saints who kept to us 2 points up when against a lesser team we would have been at least 2 scores up.
Bell made the difference and was my MoM.
We didn`t have the powerful runs in the second half and had a very lightweight bench that was never really going to get on top of Saints.
Like what`s been said with Fusi and Lisone in the team we make more yards.
Ball steal by Saints led to their try at a crucial time and a poor read by Handley led to another try.
Small margins but those small margins are the difference that win you games and trophies.
Mik and Miller our best 2 and I`m still waiting for Newman to show he is International class.
Frawley steady away and that`s about it.
Now if we had my favourite Mikey Lewis in our team then who knows!

Can’t believe they gave Dodd mom, it was Bell all day long

Dodd trysaver on Newman though at a crucial time…

Miller would have been close to MoM without that awful kick off out on the full, he busts so many tackles he’s great.

Fusi and lisone will help but I still think we won't be beating saints /wigan in the big games until we can add some more power / strike in the pack and be able to keep up pressure ahd intensity for most of the game rather than 40 mins or so

Not sure why you draw that conclusion Arthur.
I don't rate Watson at all.
But I want to see progress.
And a team with an identity that is organised and structured.
Still some way to go on that front.
And by competing for 80 mins, I want us to be competitivie in both halves. Too many games where we are decent in one half and poor in the other.
But I do think we are better than last year - but it's a very low bar.

How about both having a bit of both, like McGuire Burrow…! …lol…
Frawley is way too slow, poor kicker, and not really that good at organising. Feels harsh to say as I wanted it to work, but that’s how I saw it.
On holiday in Loch Lomond, hotel has sky so getting a fix…
Also mate and I will watch sky and attend few games this year.
Will still be bit of radio thrown into mix too though…

Still happy for Frawley to shut me up though, and appreciate others see the subtleties in his game. Played NRL last year, so clearly has quality. I’ve decided it is harsh, and wrong for me to write him off this this early……

On the basis that you would seem to prefer a % based, mistake free, meat and potatoes down the middle gameplan, which is what Huddersfield do - badly. As spectator who regularly attends the games, that's the last thing I want to see. Smith's vision of the game, which was very well executed in the first 40mins against Saints, is far more appealing to me. I accept that because of it's ambition mistakes will inevitably occur. The crucial thing for Smith, is demonstrating that he can win games on a regular basis with this approach to coaching. Now that he largely has he players he wants I think it's fair to judge him over the first dozen games of the season. I'm really hoping he can pull it off.

Mcguire and Burrow worked because Sinfield was in the side, who often played in the halves anyway.

You’re being Harsh on Frawley IMO

Agreed, I go to the rugby to be entertained not bored to dearh with % style rugby, as it happens though we are actually completing sets percentage wise, even with our style.

I can start to see our identity now, and to be fair we have won all our games in different ways.

I don’t think we’ll be consistent enough to bothering top two league positions but I think we can best anybody on our day. We were like that at points during the golden generation years aswell

Sinfield was LF for a long time. We now have Cam Smith who wants to be in the halves too. What could go wrong?

Sinfield was our main organiser and kicker, you’re comparing apples with oranges.

Be very interesting to see how we approach next week. Lisone will add something and so should Mom if he’s fit - knock on effect of getting Martin back in the pack where he seems to play his best.

Our left edge didn’t look as sexy in attack without Mom partnering Handley.

Not sure who is fit or ill, Croft has looked a little off it for 2 weeks for me.

Miller
Roberts, Newman, Mom, Handley
Croft, Frawley
Oledski, Ackers, Sangare
Bentley, Martin
Smith

Holroyd, Lisone, McDonnell, Goudemand

"Meat and potatoes down the middle game plan"







Another wildly exaggerated conclusion from what I actually said.

I think you have high standards mate, bit like me. Think the only way to enjoy Leeds is to lower those standards as they’ll never play like they used to. None of the teams are as good as their pomp days. Simple as that, almost different game now.
It is annoying when people on here make out we don’t know what we’re talking about. I still play football, golf, cricket and snooker into my 40’s, so have some appreciation of the sporting world! At ground level too…..

And do you not think you are prone to the odd wild exaggeration? Last weeks half time post against Leigh, for example.

Yep, I went way too early with that one....







Pure frustration.

Well, in fairness it's never in short supply for Leeds fans. Sure we all hope it will change - and soon.

Ha yeah, we’ve been given enough cause for frustration last few years…..

Exactly mate!
And this year is a bit of a roller coaster already.
I guess that makes it more interesting ATEOTD.
Roll on next Friday....

I think some fans expect perfect performances, sports more enjoyable when you accept players will miss tackles, drop the ball and make bad decisions. There’s a general negative attitude which looks for negative things. Just take a step back and enjoy the game.

This isn’t aimed at anyone in particular, just a general observation.

To be fair I don't think anyone suggested Simmo didn't know what he was talking about.