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| So we finally get Falloon playing well we are losing Achurch and we drop Falloon from the squad. Achurch might not even make the 17 so why drop Falloon?
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| A number of times players haven't been in the 19 this season end up playing. I still believe that Falloon might play on Sunday. Personally he should be in for Achurch. Moving Sutcliffe from fullback could be a bad decision for us for me as we've looked good in the past two weeks and he's started to fit in there.
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| Quote ="Frosties."A number of times players haven't been in the 19 this season end up playing. I still believe that Falloon might play on Sunday. Personally he should be in for Achurch. Moving Sutcliffe from fullback could be a bad decision for us for me as we've looked good in the past two weeks and he's started to fit in there.'"
I agree with you and chapy lad, I would leave Sutcliffe at Fb and play falloon
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| Quote ="Frosties."A number of times players haven't been in the 19 this season end up playing.'"
True but that was when we were struggling to name 19 fit players. If Falloon is fit/available and good to go then why is he absent over say...Mullally for example???
Also I would prefer to keep Sutcliife at FB but if Falloon isn't playing then Burrow will be hooker which means Sutcliffe will move back to the halves. Personally would go with....
1 - Sutcliffe
6 - McGuire
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9 - Keinhorst/L.Briscoe (with Golding taking his wing spot) but just can't see it happening.
A likelier scenario would be the above but with someone like JJB (or another forward) named at hooker like Walters was for the last home game vs Salford even though they won't play that role offensively.
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| Quote ="Mark Laurie"I agree with you and chapy lad, I would leave Sutcliffe at Fb and play falloon'"
Yea we seem to need a fullback who can pass and kick more than in previous years, to take pressure off the halves
Whilst it also gives Sutcliffe an extra second or two on the ball to compose himself and ease the pressure on him personally
Falloon still needs to be in the squad, there is no guarantee that segeyaro will hit the ground running
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Waiting for a cheap flight - GH is paying after all
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| he could only book flight when he got the paper work through to him from leeds, really people can we give the lad a chance to prove himself 1st b4 we right him off or he gets injured on his holiday lol, he is the one who has something to prove and want to use his time at leeds to try and get a contract back in nrl . personally think this being so he will be giving it his all and can only be good for the rhinos. hopefully we can retain him till the end of 2018 from watching nrl each week he is a quality player massive improvement on falloon
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| Quote ="leedsnsouths"Yea we seem to need a fullback who can pass and kick more than in previous years, to take pressure off the halves
Whilst it also gives Sutcliffe an extra second or two on the ball to compose himself and ease the pressure on him personally
Falloon still needs to be in the squad, there is no guarantee that segeyaro will hit the ground running'"
Agree.
A talented footballer at full back can make a huge difference on attack in modern game. When Webb was at his best he gave Leeds another dimension.
I think we will see Tomkins now start to rip it up for rest of year and I can see his talent will be the catalyst for Wigan to do a double or treble this season. Be good for the game to see a new name on SL trophy but it will surprise me if any of the others can stop Wigan.
I think Leeds fans will take to segeyaro, he is an exciting player and should really give us a lift.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Waiting for a cheap flight - GH is paying after all
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£545 cattle class return on China Southern flight via Guangzhou (stopover 21 hours in transit) and Moscow (stopover 16 hours in transit) arriving London jetlagged at 5am on Sunday
Greedy Hardaker only had to pass to his winger for a Panthers try but went the greedy route instead and blew it.
Good start.
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| Quote ="William Eve"
Greedy Hardaker only had to pass to his winger for a Panthers try but went the greedy route instead and blew it.
Good start.'"
He has always been a greedy player to goes for self glory rather than look for a man in space.
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| Quote ="Juan Cornetto"He has always been a greedy player to goes for self glory rather than look for a man in space.
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Indeed, and it was a shocker from him this morning. Five metres out, just had to pass to his open winger for a simple try but chose instead to go for personal glory by taking two Tigers defenders on. Might be a high percentage option for glory-boy in SL but it's a low percentage option in the NRL.
Short career in reserve grade beckons if he doesn't shape up quickly.
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| Quote ="William Eve"£545 cattle class return on China Southern flight via Guangzhou (stopover 21 hours in transit) and Moscow (stopover 16 hours in transit) arriving London jetlagged at 5am on Sunday
Greedy Hardaker only had to pass to his winger for a Panthers try but went the greedy route instead and blew it.
Good start.'"
In the words of Fred Boycott
OW Much!!
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| Quote ="William Eve"Indeed, and it was a shocker from him this morning. Five metres out, just had to pass to his open winger for a simple try but chose instead to go for personal glory by taking two Tigers defenders on. Might be a high percentage option for glory-boy in SL but it's a low percentage option in the NRL.
Short career in reserve grade beckons if he doesn't shape up quickly.'"
He probably knew he couldn't execute the 5 metre pass
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| Quote ="William Eve"Indeed, and it was a shocker from him this morning. Five metres out, just had to pass to his open winger for a simple try but chose instead to go for personal glory by taking two Tigers defenders on. Might be a high percentage option for glory-boy in SL but it's a low percentage option in the NRL.
Short career in reserve grade beckons if he doesn't shape up quickly.'"
Perfect assessment of that moment.
A couple more moments like that and he will be in reserve grade looking at a return to the UK.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"Perfect assessment of that moment.
A couple more moments like that and he will be in reserve grade looking at a return to the UK.'"
Thing is, when watching it live, you just knew Hardaker wasn't going to pass to the winger as soon as he received the ball. Such a shame as the build up in centre field and that Moylan one-handed pass behind his back was rather special.
His fanboys on this forum need not comment.
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| I want him to do well, I'm genuinly rooting for him. But the task infront of him is mammoth.
Tomkins kept getting picked as the Warriors simply couldn't drop a bloke on his wages. Zak won't have that luxury.
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| As good as the NRL and it's coaching is they weren't going to sort out his passing issues in just two days of training. Key will be seeing him in the same situation in several weeks and what he does.
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| So apparently Zak lost Penrith the game by missing a chance when playing out of posotion and were already 20 points behind.
Nothing to do with Moylan looking like he had never played FB in his life. Trully awful game from Moylan but apparently Zak is no where near in his class. People really have the blinkers on when they watch the aussies.
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| Moylan was bad, I think the coach lost panthers the game by taking so long to change things after Tedesco skinned Cartwright on the outside the first time. To then let him do it a couple more times before reshuffling was terrible.
Aside from bombing a try, I thought Zak was OK, but as others have said if they persist with him as a centre I can't see him lasting long in first grade. Particularly as he shows know aptitude to pass, and never really has.
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| Hardaker will need to be careful with his SL standard dumbed down play the balls. Around half were OK, half were the joke that passes for OK over here. Only a matter of time before he gets penalised although he should adapt quickly once told as I'm sure he will be. The bombed try apart I thought he went pretty well considering the step up and NRL debut nerves.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Hardaker will need to be careful with his SL standard dumbed down play the balls. Around half were OK, half were the joke that passes for OK over here. Only a matter of time before he gets penalised although he should adapt quickly once told as I'm sure he will be. The bombed try apart I thought he went pretty well considering the step up and NRL debut nerves.'"
I agree with that but he will be judged on those big moments and the judgment will be swift.
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| You're all talking like the NRL is an impossible task for him. Yeah its gonna be tough but he will be fine. Look at people like Josh Hodgson and Mike Cooper who hardly set SL alight but have done well in the NRL.
Apparantly the training at Penrith is harder and longer than at Leeds. He will improve over there hopefully on and off the field.
Apart from having the ball knocked out in act of scoring i thought he did ok to say he had only landed 3 days prior to playing. He got involved, made decent yards with the ball and made his tackles.
For me tho he will never be a centre and i dont see how he will get past Moylan at full back.
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| Segeyaro is due to arrive Monday.
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| Zak did ok, but should have passed and bombed a try as a result of greedy play.
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