Claptrap. Fusitu'a went off, obviously in a great deal of pain. How many beers have you had?

Edit: Looking forward to seeing Hooley in action on a dry summer evening with a light to moderate wind.
Olpherts should now, however, be behind McDonald, Handley, Tindall and Roberts (and Vickery) in our team selection.
Not great conditions but that pack and massive subs bench should easily have been good enough to get us at least into their half in the first half.

Taxi for Olpherts (to Odsal)

For the armchair fans, it was a truly horrendous night. Not sure how that came over on the box, but the home ground advantage was massive, as Abdul duly proved. Negatives: Olpherts doesn't look like he even wants to catch a ball. Not just tonight, but in every game this season; Hooley didn’t do anything to convince he is the heir apparent full back, although I can't imagine worse conditions in which to make your debut; We seem to lack the gumption to win the grubby games, not something that was apparent at the back end of last season. Positives - defence was great. We must have made double the tackles and yet their tries came from kicks; Oledzki came through unscathed.

That was a drop out

Ridiculous

That’s how I feel

Don’t get me wrong we weren’t at the races but we didn’t lose because of sloppy defence, we lost because we made two clangers.

Id like to see Olpherts dropped because he was dreadful tonight

Agreed, he’s definitely been underwhelming as a signing, but has horrendous luck with injury. The sole of his foot was pretty much perpendicular to the ground when he went over on the ankle, that’s got to be ligaments and at least a few weeks out. We need to replace him at the end of the year, he just doesn’t play enough.

The defence wasn’t sloppy but we did miss quite a few tackles. We lost because we invited the leagues best kicker to kick us to bits, and dropped it every time he did.

Olpherts does need dropping, out of a plane…

Just on Hooley. I know he had a mare, and he clearly didn't play well enough, but as well as the poor conditions I think he's only played one game (maybe 2?) since coming back from injury and was in the team at short notice. So I think its best to hang fire there. Olpherts I though had got past his clangers last week, but clearly not. Regardless of ability you can't carry players who make too many errors.

I put drop out on my original post

That was the worst possible game for Hooley to make his debut

Yep, horrid conditions for a fullback. What struck me wasn’t the errors, they were always going to come, it was the poor attitude he displayed. That’s a much harder fix.

Apologies- but I really don’t think you could see how strong the wind was, ive no problem with that drop out, it was inches away from being a decent kick, there was no chance of a long drop out in that weather

Poor attitude, or a complete loss of confidence? Needs some time at a lower level to regain it now. Teams will be all over him….. but can come back swinging.
Terrible day at the office, but line drawn…….. let’s see what we can do vs Hudds…..

Wouldn’t it be great if he could learn and change whilst managing another club, then come to us?

Maybe you’re right, whatever it is, he’s definitely not ready to go back in the spotlight for quite some time.

So within a week we've gone from a team that's 'hard to get in the 17' to absolute horse sht. My fears about the irratic nature of the first half v catalan continue to concern.

On Olpherts I saw a Cas fan post this : "Cas fans thought he was carp and could never understand what Leeds saw in him"

That was exactly what we thought before we got rid to Cas except he was known as Derrell AWFUL guaranteed at least two disasters every game without fail.

Must admit to being shocked when Leeds signed him.

A lot better Leeds teams than this one have lost at KR in wintry conditions……
As awful as it was, not season defining for us. Big game vs Hudds coming up now though.

Didn’t see the game and glad I didn’t from the sounds of it. Yet another inconsistent performance from us. Hearing a lot of noise from people on how bad Olpherts was, I’ve a few Cas mates and they cannot believe we signed him.

Big game next v Hudds.

Hard to look anywhere else than the combination of our back 3 and pathetic line speed, but thought Bentley was absolutely awful, braindead play after braindead play yet again, really hope we dont retain him, McDonnell can be the same player without the liability side of it.

*After every defeat* “it’s not season defining for us”.

It’s not the defeat in isolation, it’s as a collective. This and cas are season defining. It’s defines our season as sh*t.

It doesn't define our season at all.

Sorry, but why are we a nursery for a coach learning his trade?

Poor Rohan, he’s learning, he’s discovering himself, he’ll make mistakes.