Negative, negative, negative.

What was you expecting last night Seth seriously? Was you really expecting a free flowing open razzle dazzle style of game? The game went exactly as I and others expected it to, tight, tense, war of attrition, arm wrestle. I expected we would need to defend our line, deal with kicks, be good bringing it away from our line and be patient in attack. All of those are skills in RL. Wigan are, for all the negativity in your posts, a well drilled team defensively. They dont concede many points and we had to match that. We more than matched it we topped it. Picking the likes of Donaldson and Thompson allowed us some impact of the bench, we won the game so Agar's selection was absolutely spot on. The likes of Mikolaj, Cam and Tommy the Tank really added to the team when they was needed.

You say it was mistake ridden but Wigan completed at over 90% in a first half of very few stoppages. Leeds discipline last night was superb, again a key skill.

Handley made over 230m mainly clearing his lines, is that not a skill for a modern day winger?

Everytime we win you comment on the standard of the opposition. How about picking some positives out for once?

For somebody who supposedly cares about the sport, and deep down Seth i know you do, you focus on the negatives too much. Good teams win different ways. If this Leeds team is learning to win tight tussles like last night thats a good thing in my opinion not a negative. The good teams in the past could overcome any type of game
Last night was what playoff footy is all about.

Thanks for posting that Jack. Thats the exact point i made at the ground.

Again Marty your opening couple of sentences shows you want to completely ignore what I've actually written. You think last night was a good quality game and beyond the effort levels I and many others disagree, anyone would think it was just me who said it was poor quality. Even those who rightfully praise the effort have acknowledged it was. And there I think we draw a line.

Never said it was a high quality game Seth but defending and commitment are elements of the sport. You dont think the defence was high quality last night? You dont think the way our wingers cleared our line was high quality? You dont think Newmans, Cam's, Mikolaj's performances was high quality? You dont think some of our kick chase was high quality? The way we protected our wingers under kicks wasnt high quality? Our discipline, which has been poor at times this year wasnt high quality last night?

Really?

You genuinely didnt see any elements of that game that was worthy of any praise because from about an hour before the game all you posted was negativity. If thats how you want to be then fine. If beating Wigan away in a playoff game isnt good enough for you I find that very strange.

last night we outdid Wigan at their own game. Had to have a change of tatics from the last outing and it proved to be the right decision. Out Wiganed Wigan at Wigan.
I think anyone watching who has been following the game for a long time understood what was happening. Not a game for the casual supporter or non affecianado maybe but a bloody good win, nilling the opposition in a play off game is no mean feat. Because it was the first time it has been 0-0 at ht in PO game speaks volume. That wasn't becasue it was two poor sides, it was because it was two sides performing game plans that were cancelling each other out. Not the flashiest of watches but hey ho, on to the semi's
Couldnt be prouder of my team after all the advcersity of seasons gone and this one in particular

Yes Marty the effort areas and 3 individuals mentioned were worthy of praise and along with my frustrations on the overall poor quality and lack of any real pressure on our defence, I should have also mentioned these.

Well said completely agree.

"Oh but it wasnt high quality" who cares. Onto the semi.

We score on average 3 points per half in the last 10 games or so. Nilling us is nothing to be proud of!

I actually thought the Wigan defender just got a toe to the ball as he kicked it.

It was Smith. And I agree, it was Carl Ablett-esque, I thought Smith ran and tackled hard all game. The progress we've made in the last 2 -3 years is very impressive. There's no comparison to the awful pack we had. Everyone got stuck in last night. Not sure how anybody could be negative. The team spirit appears to be excellent.

Leeming needs more minutes at 9 in the next game and I worry that Myler will be targetted with high kicks. Other than that, even if we're gallant losers in the next game I think the season on the whole has been a massive positive and next year providing we have more luck with injuries we should be in contention for silverware.

I see a lot of criticism of Myler dropping a couple of kicks, but apart from a couple monster bombs in the 2nd half, he was faultless. The improvement he's made in that position is remarkable considering he'd never played there before this season.

leeming rarely puts people through gaps and quite often picks the wrong pass. hooker is the one position I worry about. I hope johnson, who I rate highly, kicks on

That 1st high kick he dropped was spiralling and moving everywhere. Anyone couldve dropped that, cant blame Myler for that. Errors happen in games its how you defend them that counts.

I thought our Defence was excellent last night they never looked like scoring and i thought Newman & Briscoe on our right edge were class. With the ball we struggled admittedly but we won.
Also how poor has Bateman been this Season? He's fast becoming a parody of his former self & that Harry Smith is way over rated not a patch on Dodd or Lewis.

Am I the only one that thought Miks tackle was shoulder to shoulder? The replays the sky team showed were rubbish and never showed contact with head. If he would have made contact with his head I think it would gave come off!

Didn't look like it hit the head to me either.

Hardaker had a torrid time didn't he, Prior winding him up was hilarious

I thought on the replay at half time when Carney highlighted it, that there was contact with the head but would need to watch again for certain. The bulk of the collision was, however, body to body.

He really took some hammer didn't he? In fairness he soaked it up and kept coming. Despite his many flaws he's never been soft and never been dirty.

I thought Hardaker was Wigan's best player, to be fair

Yep Zak was awesome (on the field) for us for a few years.

Shadow of his former self but still game. We were hammering him all night though.

Just on Leeming's drop goal attempt. He should've known straight away to abandon that play, because they were on him. Either move the ball on or take the tackle, as it was only on the 4th.

Sorry fellas been in a pretty dark place for a while and just picking fights everywhere and being pretty down on everything.

Hey, this is a safe place to pick a fight. We all talk big but we wear pillows for gloves.

I enjoy your posts seth. not sure you're the one picking fights mate

Sethsters take it easy bud. ALAW and all that. You talk a lot of sense, don’t take anything personally it’s just opinions.