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| Quote ="rollin thunder"Newmans defense is atrocious, he is costing us fames, he may be one fir the furute but he is looking poor at the moment, i would move Handley to centre and luke briscoe on the wing for next few games, or give alex sutcliffe a go'"
Newman is learning on the job in one of the most difficult positions to defend, the miss was poor yesterday but he backed it up with a great piece of defending when he rushed up but ut a real good shot on halting hulls momentum.
Suggesting putting either wingers or another young kid in to fix the problem is daft IMO
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| I personally would be keeping the same team for this weeks trip to Huddersfield, we didn't miss Myler at all but they'll no doubt bring him back in now his one match is over
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| I said during the game and posted at the time on here that we needed to get Dwyer back off the sodding pitch. I said it because he was costing us with his defence, just as he had the week before. How anyone can actually watch that game yesterday and say he had a good game, defies belief. The 9 missed tackles he had as a sub hooker, something I have never seen before from an hooker, backed up the very view I had at the game. What Agar was doing keeping him on I do not know. The energy lost for the team whilst covering those gaps was significant.
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| Quote ="Chris71"Hull fan in peace, I thought the game was as expected a close and tense game as to be expected with your need for wins and our need to find consistency in performance. Thought we were controlling the game up until the Ash Handley intercept (if he'd missed it we were in and game over) then you got the momentum and we seemed to lose our left hand sliding defence and you capitalised to go ahead. Another poor error from you again lead to us scoring and ultimately getting the hard fought win.
I think we were ok but helped to the win by a combination of your errors and daft penalties at crucial times and areas of the field.
Hurrell was a handful and caused us problems with the numbers he sucked in to defend, he reminds me of Fonua, great going forward though makes mistakes but positives outweigh the negatives.
Think your biggest issue is Agar to be honest as you have inherited the same issue we had under his tenure as coach that once your in the opposition 20 there doesn't seem to be any real genuine threat or structure to your to unlock the defensive line. Plus our discipline under Agar was also pretty dire and dumb.
Think Wakey are in big trouble with regards relegation along with Rovers and possibly yourselves, whilst London are in the mix the pressure to an extent is not on them as they've been expected to be dead certs for the drop before the season kicked off.'"
Fair assessment.
Again to be fair to Agar, the team are dropping the ball and doing various stupid things consistently. He isn’t asking them to do those things.
Leeds haven’t looked good in the opposition’s 20 very often for as long as I can remember - but we used to have the pace and team play to score from distance.
It is quite interesting to hear Agar’s language change a bit since he took over. As with Furner, they can’t hide the frustrations they have with some players.
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| Quote ="christopher"Newman is learning on the job in one of the most difficult positions to defend, the miss was poor yesterday but he backed it up with a great piece of defending when he rushed up but ut a real good shot on halting hulls momentum.
Suggesting putting either wingers or another young kid in to fix the problem is daft IMO'"
He is missing a couple of them a game and it’s conceding tries he needs taking out if the firing line on the run in, it will destroy him if he costs us a game that gets us relegated. He us still young and has had a good run, put him on the shelf till we are safe.
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| giving Dwyer a contract extension is crazy, running around like a headless chicken and missing numerous tackles . Warrington got shut for a reason
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| Think Lunt did not return yesterday because he made 2 big errors near the hull line in first half.
Dwyer did put out a good long ball for a Briscoe try, having set off left, done a full turn, thrown 2 dummies and a half pike with triple salko, as his is styleee.
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| Quote ="Mark Laurie"Think Lunt did not return yesterday because he made 2 big errors near the hull line in first half.
Dwyer did put out a good long ball for a Briscoe try, having set off left, done a full turn, thrown 2 dummies and a half pike with triple salko, as his is styleee.'"
Nine missed tackles, and the failing to fill the gap on many others, were far more significant errors.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Nine missed tackles, and the failing to fill the gap on many others, were far more significant errors"
I've said a few times he needs to play with a ball of his own, the pair of them were pretty poor yesterday.
Not saying it makes up for it but. At least Dwyer injects some pace and dynamism which in general we lack.
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| A proper 9 is essential for next year with Dwyer impacting game from bench
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| A bit harsh on Lunt to judge him so soon. He's been out a fair while. But we haven't many games for him to get right.
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| Anyone expecting much from Lunt does not know his recent history
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| Dwyer is what he is, an impact Hooker, who in a good side would get 20-25 minutes off the bench. Great eye for a break, and some pace to back it up.
Not the game controlling, skilled distributor we should have starting though. I've said it before - bring back McShane!
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| Well, sooner or later we are going to have to go UK based.
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| Quote ="exiledrhino"Dwyer is what he is, an impact Hooker, who in a good side would get 20-25 minutes off the bench. Great eye for a break, and some pace to back it up.
Not the game controlling, skilled distributor we should have starting though. I've said it before - bring back McShane!'"
Totally agree with all of that except I don't think McShane's the answer.
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| Dwyer plays a lot like Burrow at hooker. Potentially game changing if used effectively (hence deserving of an extension IMO) but not what we need at hooker. Plus, Brad's not as good as Rob.
To be fair to 'Dog', his form was a lot better earlier in the season, but he seems to be struggling now - trying to force things a bit too much. You get that in teams under pressure - it's also affecting other players like Newman and Hurrell.
Do Leeds use a sports psychologist?
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| Quote ="Exeter Rhino"Dwyer plays a lot like Burrow at hooker. Potentially game changing if used effectively (hence deserving of an extension IMO) but not what we need at hooker. Plus, Brad's not as good as Rob.
To be fair to 'Dog', his form was a lot better earlier in the season, but he seems to be struggling now - trying to force things a bit too much. You get that in teams under pressure - it's also affecting other players like Newman and Hurrell.
Do Leeds use a sports psychologist?'"
I think Burrow was much worse at 9. He played in a far better team but he would have been a nightmare to run off. His passing was worse, he more often than not ran his runners out. Though, overall, Burrow had a better career (in the halves) and had more of the ‘X’ factor and is rightly regarded as a Leeds legend.
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| Got to be honest I'm fed up of the hooking issues we have constantly. It's about time we got a hooker long term who can do the job.
I'm maybe too harsh on Dwyer but I honestly think hes one of the worst players I've ever seen. Lunt isn't the answer either.
It's gone on for nearly 10 years now and it's about time we got a proper 9 at the club who stays and performs.
Corey needs to work on his collision and physicality and he could be the answer. It needs bloody sorting, it's a crucial position and is along with a 7, an absolute priority for the club to rectify.
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"Got to be honest I'm fed up of the hooking issues we have constantly. It's about time we got a hooker long term who can do the job.
I'm maybe too harsh on Dwyer but I honestly think hes one of the worst players I've ever seen. Lunt isn't the answer either.
It's gone on for nearly 10 years now and it's about time we got a proper 9 at the club who stays and performs.
Corey needs to work on his collision and physicality and he could be the answer. It needs bloody sorting, it's a crucial position and is along with a 7, an absolute priority for the club to rectify.'"
Completely agree. It’s one of, if not the most influential positions these days, and yet we’ve seemed to shove square pegs into round holes or just use stop gaps.
I’m a fan of Dwyer but only if used correctly, in the same way that Burrow, if he had to be played there, should have been. 10-15 minute spells in each half If needed to step up the speed/intensity while the main 9 has a rest.
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| dont rate dwyerbut a short spell or two is fine
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| I agree, Dwyer off the bench to make an impact and add a spark is fine. 10 mins before HT and last 20 mins would be ideal to take advantage of tired legs.
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| Well hopefully we move to 80mins from Johnson in another year or two.
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"Well hopefully we move to 80mins from Johnson in another year or two.'"
Is this likely to happen? I've not seen much of him, but from the board it seems like he's a talented player.
Just hope it's not another Liam Hood situation!
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| Quote ="exiledrhino"Is this likely to happen? I've not seen much of him, but from the board it seems like he's a talented player.
Just hope it's not another Liam Hood situation!'"
Liam Hood, who actually did quite decent holding his own after us? Corey is completely different to Hood, both in skills and physically.
The problem with Dwyer is not realising when it is a problem. It always seemed stupid against Hull KR to start him with Lunt on the bench. The lead KR got was down to him, they targetted him and ran him ragged. He was not an issue in attack, but that isn't the only part of the game. Once he was off, the threat of Hull KR diminished. Against Hull, we left him out there when he was near dead getting up, 20 minutes before the end of the game, and again Hull targetted him defensively, and nine missed tackles is absolute pathetic stats, and purely as a result of him staying out there. He should have been off, and that is down to the coach not acting on that.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Liam Hood, who actually did quite decent holding his own after us? Corey is completely different to Hood, both in skills and physically.
The problem with Dwyer is not realising when it is a problem. It always seemed stupid against Hull KR to start him with Lunt on the bench. The lead KR got was down to him, they targetted him and ran him ragged. He was not an issue in attack, but that isn't the only part of the game. Once he was off, the threat of Hull KR diminished. Against Hull, we left him out there when he was near dead getting up, 20 minutes before the end of the game, and again Hull targetted him defensively, and nine missed tackles is absolute pathetic stats, and purely as a result of him staying out there. He should have been off, and that is down to the coach not acting on that.'"
What's youre view of Johnsons skillset? Is he likely to make the step up in your opinion?
Any other of the academy you particularly think will make the grade?
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