The Leeds website records Walkers birthdays as 08/08/1999

You must be blind if you think we are worse. I think it is just a realisation from some people of just how bad we are, arrogantly not realising it earlier. We have been this bad for months.

Exactly, 19 then just turned.

What is Walker's date of birth?

On Golding I totally disagree with your assessment and you keep overlooking Walker' defensive errors.

Don't get me wrong, I rate Walker as a big future prospect, however I think his sidestep and passing would be more effective at halfback than running against a wall of opposition tacklers.

Are you ok this morning? You do know its 2018 don’t you?

No we were both a year out

I was 23 days out

you forgot to add the award winning coach who picked injured players, picked players who weren't playing well, had no rotation or resting and oversaw the start of the rot. hes as much to blame as Hetherington us

If he keeps saying it on enough different threads he thinks it will suddenly become accepted wisdom/fact.

The club doesn't make decisions on the coaching staff based on a phone call from Berry's or Chadwick Lawrence.

I've just spent 5 minutes reading an argument over jack walkers exact birth date. It's not just the first team that have gone to the dogs. The comments on here get worse each day.

It was hardly an argument, I just hadnt realised that Walker had recently had a birthday, Juan just didn’t realise what year we are currently in

Poor Mr Sin Field feeling the pressure.

In hind sightI think we seriously missed a trick in not putting everything into signing Jackson Hastings, yes it wouldn’t have helped the defence but would have helped with our last tackle options and organisation, was it twice yesterday we got tackled on the 5th rather than playing for a repeat set or putting an attacking kick in.

I have actually braved a rewatch, must have been a great game for the neutrals

I think it was three times. Once in the first, twice in the second.

Wake up and realise that neither club is currently in SL. We are currently trying to prove you deserve a place is SL in 2019.

No not blind, i can see the gaps in our defence perfectly well! We look more fragile now than before BM was sacked.
I can also see that the posters who have wanted him gone for such a long time, are not going to hold their hands up now and admit we should have stuck with him, at least until the season was over. Notice you didn't respond about Myler, still a brilliant signing?

we were going down under macdermott imo.something had to be done. wether it works or not is another matter

Respond about Myler? I was the one critisizing and you agreed with by quoting. I was also the one on the player of season thread saying how poor he has been since the concussion injury. So what was your point?

Your wrong on this just like McDermott. We were in a big slide and would have got worse. The slide stopped, but still stuck in a very low level. I have no need to defend my view on McDermott has he has proved exactly what I was saying four years back, took the club back years and years. There is not even an argument to that.

Sorry for the confusion regarding Myler, I was referring to past posts when you were lording him as a brilliant signing. I appreciate that you have now seen the light.
The slide stopped? We have beaten 2 championship teams and Widnes at home. They are the facts and there has been no upturn in performance. No one knows how results would have gone had BM stayed, including you, but I would have preferred him in charge over the run in, instead of a past player(As great as he was) with no coaching experience.

I was lording him as a brilliant signing, he was very good at the time, and I haven’t written him off yet. But I say what is in front of me, and since that concussion injury he has been poor. Especially, where has the short kicking game gone? Disappeared completely.

We don’t know either way on McDermott but from what I saw from earlier in season to where we were, I am confident to say things would have got worse still. My opinion of course.

What's worse still? No way we'd have lost to Toulouse or London even with an actual donut as coach.

We're conceding an average of 30 points a game since Sinfield came in, and 30 a game in the M8s. Given the quality of opposition that is terrible. The ONE thing everyone with half an RL brain knows is that defence is a lot about attitude, and our team's attitude stinks. The interesting thing to me is how come we have seen very little response since Sinfield came back, and it can only mean that either he's not getting his message across, or the team really is as bad as it looks with a bunch of players literally not bothered whether we win or lose.

I still think the club had to do something with respect to BM, and from all accounts it was his choice to not stay to the end of the season. However, I really think we should have gone all out both in terms of signings (Hastings really was wortth a punt even if he only stayed for the 8s this year) and a more experienced (better) coach for the short term as well.

Both clubs are still in SL - that is until one/both gets relegated - that's the reality

As a corporate sponsor at the Rhinos yes I can - we are not a silo and we do discuss things with other sponsors who happen to be either customer/suppliers of ours. It was also mentioned on a thread on here by another corporate sponsor who was spending 7.5k in the Carneige and the club was asked for £10k for the same package IFIRK.

The new facilities at Leeds will be amazing but they also come at a very substantial cost - especially when you only get 14 games a season. Filling those spaces would be very difficult if the quality of the entertainment was on a par with the turgid drivel that McDermott had served up during his time at the club.

As company we have corporate at Premier League football and the costs at Headingley are in line with that when you take into consideration the extra games you get in the PL.