They are evidence, you just refuse to see where the answer leads to.

Luke Gake has won Man Of Steel, personally I'm delighted because I put £10 on him at 16/1 at the start of the season to win it

SmokeyTA, stop boring everybody in to submission. You're by far the biggest dullard on rlfans, even bigger than vastman.

Cheers.

Bit of a risky time for you to be on here isnt it? Leeds win and you have to set up a whole new persona.

Oh dear
The James Child show.......
Spoils a good game!

Anyone barely give the ref a second thought before a game?

Was it raining that night? I don't remember.

Big fuss about nowt. Get your excuses in early here.

Plenty of Castleford fans complaining too.

It didn't rain did it?

Thought it was just my tears as we we're ripped apart live on TV?

well if Leeds win he will disappear for another year and regenerate as ?? DR WHO?

The press was all over Saints back then, even though both league competitions had been ridiculously close (unlike this year). 2008 was the "lightening doesn't strike twice" final when Saints would sweep us aside and erase the memory of the "freak" result in 2007.

I couldn't call it this year. It's a bit like us in 2004 for Cas, and we are Bradford. We were able to change styles and grind it out, if Cas can do that then they should win. But little things can change games - Big Les's little toe going in touch and Robbie Paul's inexplicable fumble in 2004 probably were the difference.

2008 in the semi that sent Saints straight to OT they beat us 38-10 and they started to believe all the media comments ,even their coach Daniel Anderson surprisingly said 'ive never been more confident '

Typical of RL fans whining about the referee. Pathetic.

This one has a similar feel to 2011. A bit unexpected to find ourselves in the GF, thought surely Saints were due one so felt a bit like nothing to lose and wouldn't begrudge the opposition a deserved title. Most relaxed I've been on the day by a long way, stark contrast to the nerves of 2 years ago.

Sean Long's autobiography about 2007 and especially 2008 "when we supremely confident of avenging 2007 and show how to beat Leeds saints style" is particularly superb. "But it rained and Leeds played the conditions better"



Mentally broke them 2007.

I missed the 2008 final, I was on a flight to Japan. I arrived in Tokyo at around 11pm UK time and was in the queue at passport control while my crappy little Palm Treo tried to download the Sporting Life page. First thing I saw was a soaking wet Kylie holding the trophy and grinning. My celebration did attract quite a bit of attention.
A certain poster on here then had the most tremendous fun with the Saints fans, so don't think he doesn't want Leeds to win on Saturday

That pretty much sums up how I feel about this Saturday. We have had a much better season that I feared we might and we've gone a got ourselves a chance of winning the season finale. Win or lose, we've had a good season and so long as we don't get tonked I'll walk away from OT happy.



I bet there will be nerves at K.O. though

I've been to most GFs & can't think of any where I thought it was a foregone conclusion.

that's true because 2009 although Saints gave a good account themselves Leeds were always going to win

For anyone attending the Grand Final on Saturday why not visit Hotel Football next to Old Trafford

Hotel Football will once again host a pre Super League Grand Final party in the Old Trafford Supporters Club in the Hotel. A galaxy of Rugby League legends that will be interviewed by former Super League referee Karl Kirkpatrick during the afternoon. The event will start at 1330 and will entertain Rugby League fans until kick off. s a An admission fee of £2 will be charged all of which will be will be donated to the Steve Prescott Foundation.

Are the drinks prices reasonable?

We were thinking of Wetherspoons.

Anyone know why Ryan Bailey seems to dislike Cas (and I can only assume Luke Gale ) so much ?