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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"I agree, after re watching it, Ablett doesn't have chance to stand over S Tomkins. McGuire however doesn't do himself any favours at all when watching it back. The penalty has already been blown and still goes over the top of Sam when he's been cleaned out!'"
But you said "[iBecause Ablett was stood over Sam in the same way that Riddell was stood over McGuire, is that not the same[/i?"
So did you just make that up or is that actually how the incident looks in your memory?
Why you are trying to blame anything on McGuire is beyond me, he completes the (very poor) tackle on Tomkins about 1.5 seconds after Ablett hit him, all he does is put his body weight on him, I doubt he could hear the whistle for the Wigan fans so his other option was to "not" play to the whistle and let Tomkins make extra yards.
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"Read above, however McGuire knew it was already a penalty, didn't need to go in after it at all. Also the Leeds fans seem pretty happy with Abletts tackle after it, hardly sportsman like.'"
Stop trying to be your dad, he's much better than you at this
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"Read above, however McGuire knew it was already a penalty, didn't need to go in after it at all. Also the Leeds fans seem pretty happy with Abletts tackle after it, hardly sportsman like.'"
You are a classic numpty mate! McGuire does what any professional player would have done, he simply went to complete the tackle. Tomkins was fine and McGuire can and should not allow a player of Sam Tomkins ability to potentially get to his feet to continue play, which he clearly could have done the way he sprung to his feet and joined the handbags!
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"Did he?
After Joel and Leaulai pushed Ablett ...right? And he didn't push him....JJB OWNED him
Please forgive JJB for defending his team mate instead showing concern for Tomkins'"
I've already accepted after re watching the video I was wrong regarding the incident. However it still stands that none of them including McGuire shown any concern for Sam Tomkins who potentially could have had his jaw broken with Abletts challenge. Would that be correct?
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"Shows how little you know about Andy Coley.'"
I know he gives away lots of needless penalties away and has a nice collection of yellow and red cards.
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"I've already accepted after re watching the video I was wrong regarding the incident. However it still stands that none of them including McGuire shown any concern for Sam Tomkins who potentially could have had his jaw broken with Abletts challenge. Would that be correct?'"
Why should they? Its rugby league not tiddly winks.
The chance they had to do that was taken away after Joel and Thomas attacked Ablett. Do you think consolidating Tomkins was top of the agenda at the time?
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"I've already accepted after re watching the video I was wrong regarding the incident. However it still stands that none of them including McGuire shown any concern for Sam Tomkins who potentially could have had his jaw broken with Abletts challenge. Would that be correct?'"
Including his own brother who was more concerned with a bit of biff.
Nobody got chance to be concerned for Tomkins "who was running towards the biff 5 seconds after McGuire left him" (watch the video) because Joel started the fight.
So regarding the 2 incidents, McGuire had completely fecked his knee and was down and out in obvious pain whilst Tomkins who nobody ever (despite what you say) stood over him was running towards the fight 5 seconds later, any other great examples?
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"But you said "[iBecause Ablett was stood over Sam in the same way that Riddell was stood over McGuire, is that not the same[/i?"
So did you just make that up or is that actually how the incident looks in your memory?
Why you are trying to blame anything on McGuire is beyond me, he completes the (very poor) tackle on Tomkins about 1.5 seconds after Ablett hit him, all he does is put his body weight on him, I doubt he could hear the whistle for the Wigan fans so his other option was to "not" play to the whistle and let Tomkins make extra yards.'"
I'm watching it back now, the ref blows the whistle and McGuire goes into the "illegal tackle". He's clearly heard the whistle as he looks back whilst still on top of Sam. Sam could be seriously injured for all he knows but McGuire gets straight up and goes into the fight! I'm sorry but McGuire and all of his Leeds players need to look at themselves before all the comments they've made this week. Just because Sam gets up a few seconds after it makes no difference. I'm not trying to put all the blame on McGuire in all this at all, but after all the comments regarding the Wigan players this week from Peacock he needs to look at his own players first.
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"I'm watching it back now, the ref blows the whistle and McGuire goes into the "illegal tackle". He's clearly heard the whistle as he looks back whilst still on top of Sam. Sam could be seriously injured for all he knows but McGuire gets straight up and goes into the fight! I'm sorry but McGuire and all of his Leeds players need to look at themselves before all the comments they've made this week. Just because Sam gets up a few seconds after it makes no difference. I'm not trying to put all the blame on McGuire in all this at all, but after all the comments regarding the Wigan players this week from Peacock he needs to look at his own players first.'"
Your cleary stupid.
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"I've already accepted after re watching the video I was wrong regarding the incident. However it still stands that none of them including McGuire shown any concern for Sam Tomkins who potentially could have had his jaw broken with Abletts challenge. Would that be correct?'"
You are funny... no really!
None of the Leeds players showed any concern for Tomkins??? Firstly, he was clearly not seriously hurt, I am sure if when McGuire went to complete the tackle he had sensed he was, he would have stopped and called the bench over... but he wasn't was he!!! Secondly, Lueluai and Joel were also so concerned about Tomkins as his TEAM MATE and BROTHER they waded into Ablett before checking on Sam! But it is Leeds players who are in the wrong for not showing concern for Sam????
I notice many of your fellow Wigan supporter are in agreement with you here... oh wait, no they aren't... even they know you are a numpty!
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"Your cleary stupid.'"
Hang on........
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Verified.
He's a 'tard.
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"I'm watching it back now, the ref blows the whistle and McGuire goes into the "illegal tackle". He's clearly heard the whistle as he looks back whilst still on top of Sam. Sam could be seriously injured for all he knows but McGuire gets straight up and goes into the fight! I'm sorry but McGuire and all of his Leeds players need to look at themselves before all the comments they've made this week. Just because Sam gets up a few seconds after it makes no difference. I'm not trying to put all the blame on McGuire in all this at all, but after all the comments regarding the Wigan players this week from Peacock he needs to look at his own players first.'"
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"icon_lol.gif You are funny... no really!
None of the Leeds players showed any concern for Tomkins??? Firstly, he was clearly not seriously hurt, I am sure if when McGuire went to complete the tackle he had sensed he was, he would have stopped and called the bench over... but he wasn't was he!!! Secondly, Lueluai and Joel were also so concerned about Tomkins as his TEAM MATE and BROTHER they waded into Ablett before checking on Sam! But it is Leeds players who are in the wrong for not showing concern for Sam????
I notice many of your fellow Wigan supporter are in agreement with you here... oh wait, no they aren't... even they know you are a numpty!'"
Probably because there is a page on our own site about Peacocks comments? And seeing as it's easier to agree with Wigan fans on the same thing, the issue makes it more interesting when Leeds fans don't agree, shock.
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| Something along the lines of the trapped Chille miners fits this situation.
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"I'm watching it back now, the ref blows the whistle and McGuire goes into the "illegal tackle". He's clearly heard the whistle as he looks back whilst still on top of Sam. Sam could be seriously injured for all he knows but McGuire gets straight up and goes into the fight! I'm sorry but McGuire and all of his Leeds players need to look at themselves before all the comments they've made this week. Just because Sam gets up a few seconds after it makes no difference. I'm not trying to put all the blame on McGuire in all this at all, but after all the comments regarding the Wigan players this week from Peacock he needs to look at his own players first.'"
Players can become injured in any tackle, even very innocuous looking ones, doesn't stop players finishing tackles off.
What was your point again?
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"Players can become injured in any tackle, even very innocuous looking ones, doesn't stop players finishing tackles off.
What was your point again?'"
The tackle was illegal, something in which Leeds are quite familiar with doing lately. Quite ironic really in that McGuire is now injured after he made an illegal tackle himself. Not that i wished the injury on him but it's ironic all the same.
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"The tackle was illegal, something in which Leeds are quite familiar with doing lately.'"
More detail required.
May I remind you of Joel Tomkins , Andy 'Brain Dead' Coley
HTH
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"More detail required.
May I remind you of Joel Tomkins , Andy 'Brain Dead' Coley
HTH'"
At least those 2 can play this week. Hows Danny?
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"At least those 2 can play this week. Hows Danny?'"
Classy.
Just goes to show they're all the same. Scum.
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"Classy.
Just goes to show they're all the same. Scum.'"
Hardly, brought it on yourselves. Trying to show Wigan players up but as pointed, Leeds are no angels themselves.
And for the record I clapped Danny McGuire off as he got stretchered off, as pointed out after the game itself I was disappointed with the Wigan fans who was more interested at hurling the abuse, but he still cheated.
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"I can't see past a Wigan win to be honest, we were always going to struggle without Peacock but now without McGuire as well, who in the first match:
Put Hall in for a try
Put Donald in for a try
Scored a try
Made a try saving tackle on Richards
Just a bridge to far for me and as Era said it has Echo's of '04 when we lost to Bradford at home.
It's been a fun year mind, I've quite enjoyed it.'"
Its never over until the fat prop sings! Of course Wigan are favourites and of course we can still win!
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"Classy.
Just goes to show they're all the same. Scum.'"
Did'nt take long for the "real" pie to show his colours!
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"Hardly, brought it on yourselves. Trying to show Wigan players up but as pointed, Leeds are no angels themselves.'"
Oh that's ok then - I'm glad we've cleared up where the acceptable level of morality is in the thread.
Fingers crossed Mark Riddell suffers severe brain damage next time he spears someone. It'll serve him right.
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"The tackle was illegal, something in which Leeds are quite familiar with doing lately. Quite ironic really in that McGuire is now injured after he made an illegal tackle himself. Not that i wished the injury on him but it's ironic all the same.'"
I have absolutely no idea where you are now attempting to go with this, FYI Joel is the most penalised player in SL and players like Coley, S'Ol, Piggy etc have been known to give a high shot or two
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"At least those 2 can play this week. Hows Danny?'"
But which side will they help?
Danny will be in pain. Is that what you want to hear.
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