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| Quote ="(Broken) Time Bandit"surely Saints fans would rather see him get up and crack someone or, at the very least, get 'stuck in'. '"
Some do, some don't. I don't. I'd rather see us play a cracking game of RL. Sure, most of us enjoy a bit of biff but neither your fans nor mine enjoy an illegal tackle on one of our extremely good players. Most of us think he should payback in ways other than fists as all that gets us is the sin bin (retaliation is usually punished more harshly than aggression). He has to lock down his reactions does Graham and so they leak out in other ways. But should we meet again before this year's war is ended, I'm sure he'll give his reply at some point in the match.
Our only real whiner is Wellens and we do all wish he'd shut up, frankly.
Whatever any of you may say to the contrary, Jammer did not play up his injury. He is genuinely injured and is going for a scan.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Some do, some don't. I don't. I'd rather see us play a cracking game of RL. Sure, most of us enjoy a bit of biff but neither your fans nor mine enjoy an illegal tackle on one of our extremely good players. Most of us think he should payback in ways other than fists as all that gets us is the sin bin (retaliation is usually punished more harshly than aggression). He has to lock down his reactions does Graham and so they leak out in other ways. But should we meet again before this year's war is ended, I'm sure he'll give his reply at some point in the match.
Our only real whiner is Wellens and we do all wish he'd shut up, frankly.
Whatever any of you may say to the contrary, Jammer did not play up his injury. He is genuinely injured and is going for a scan.'"
Writhing around squawking on the deck and then jumping up to carry on when he didn't get a penalty suggests otherwise though!!
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Writhing around squawking on the deck and then jumping up to carry on when he didn't get a penalty suggests otherwise though!!'"
Well, to silly fans from other clubs, yes. However, he was clearly in pain, as you would be if that kind of pressure was being applied to your shoulder, but the pain relieved when the pressure was stopped. Makes sense to me. If I decided to press hard on a joint it would hurt. Stop pressing, it stops hurting. I really don't see what there is to dispute here.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Well, to silly fans from other clubs, yes. However, he was clearly in pain, as you would be if that kind of pressure was being applied to your shoulder, but the pain relieved when the pressure was stopped. Makes sense to me. If I decided to press hard on a joint it would hurt. Stop pressing, it stops hurting. I really don't see what there is to dispute here.
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No dispute just stating what happend.
Was he or was he not writhing around like ronaldo and then jumped up when he didn't get a penalty????
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| just been watching the game back and one moment of dirty saints play that no one has mentioned, well saints fans will deny it happened. on 75 minutes when the fight between smith and gilmore kicks off JJB pulls Graham away from the fight and they move five meters away. Graham and JJB start to break away from one another then from the right hand corner Wilkin comes steaming and and slams into the back of JJB for no reason. again it looks to me like big hard wilkin does people from behind. classy guy
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| i will add to the above JJB dragged graham away after graham swung a punch in a scuffle that had nothing to do with him although when Wilkin pushed JJB hard from behind JJB lurched forward into graham connecting head to head and Graham went down
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| Cunningham had no complaints at the end. The better team won.
I don't think JJB did chicking wing intenstionally, it was a leeds tactic to do everything poss to get the player on their back -more so than normal.
Great game, good bit of biff. can't wait for the re match.
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| Quote ="bewildered"i will add to the above JJB dragged graham away after graham swung a punch in a scuffle that had nothing to do with him although when Wilkin pushed JJB hard from behind JJB lurched forward into graham connecting head to head and Graham went down'"
AFter 80 minutes of tough RL, the last thing you want to see coming towards you is a forehead like JJBs
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"AFter 80 minutes of tough RL, the last thing you want to see coming towards you is a forehead like JJBs'"
thats what i was thinking. would explain the bloody nose graham had at the end. christ JJs head could stop a bus
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| I might be wrong but having watched the replay was Graham telling his fellow Saints players not to shake hands at the hooter?
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| Quote ="(Broken) Time Bandit"I might be wrong but having watched the replay was Graham telling his fellow Saints players not to shake hands at the hooter?
Silly boy.....'"
I don't know but Wellens was telling him to grow up.
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| Quote ="tvoc"I don't know but Wellens was telling him to grow up.'"
I dont know if this has been pointed out earlier, but this is the same Jammer, who punched a door and broke his hand ruling him out of the tri nations, down under, after his saints team mates had played a prank on him after that years GF. The ginger honey monstor will never grow up.
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| You guys lost a lot of respect on Friday night by the way your players conducted themselves on the pitch. Dirty low tactics.
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| Quote ="joburg"You guys lost a lot of respect on Friday night by the way your players conducted themselves on the pitch. Dirty low tactics.'"
So what. Jog on.
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| Quote ="joburg"You guys lost a lot of respect on Friday night by the way your players conducted themselves on the pitch. Dirty low tactics.'"
Not in my town.
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| Quote ="joburg"You guys lost a lot of respect on Friday night by the way your players conducted themselves on the pitch. Dirty low tactics.'"
And coming from you that means absolutely nothing!
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| help please Is a chicken wing what used to be known as a coat hanger?
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| Quote ="bewildered"thats what i was thinking. would explain the bloody nose graham had at the end. christ JJs head could stop a bus'"
The bloody nose Graham had at the end was the result of the forearm smash to the face he received from Kylie just before the end. How they missed that one is beyond me. Sky didn't even show it again so I could sensationalise over it.
Graham shook his head at Kylie and walked away. That IMO is being the bigger man than waiting for an attempt to cheap shot somebody.
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| Quote ="joburg"You guys lost a lot of respect on Friday night by the way your players conducted themselves on the pitch. Dirty low tactics.'" Gutted, no really.
As we march on to our 3rd consecutive grand Final that will weight heavily on my mind.
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"I think it'll make him less effective against many teams.....as its been seen in all its glory its not hard to get him off his game.......a little late one here, a stiff arm there, and you've got a ginger freak out on your hands.....
'" Absolutely. All he's done is paint a big red target on his chest with his hissy fit last night and the tantrum he threw when we were too rough for his liking at Knowsley Road.
His coach, or senior player like Cunningham, needs to have a word or the boy will go like Fielden very quickly.
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| Just watching the match again, did anyone else see the old bird with James Graham at the end of the match when he walks up the tunnel? Not sure was it his Mum having a go cause of his attitude, but deservered the shove anyway!!!!
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| Quote ="Saddened!"The bloody nose Graham had at the end was the result of the forearm smash to the face he received from Kylie just before the end. How they missed that one is beyond me. Sky didn't even show it again so I could sensationalise over it.
Graham shook his head at Kylie and walked away. That IMO is being the bigger man than waiting for an attempt to cheap shot somebody.'"
Funny that, as Graham normally waits for opportunities to hit somebody coming in at 3rd man.
That's the biggest house thing you can do on a rugby field IMO.
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| Just to add. Jason Cayless was ruled out for the full season after a chicken wing tackle on him vs Leeds in the Challenge cup.
Classy side are Leeds.
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| Quote ="Man Beast"
Classy side are Leeds.'" Nasty aren't we. Big mean nasty bullies.
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