and Michael Smith ...(iirc)

12 Points conceded during his sin binning and getting Burrow killed was a very, very important contribution to our defeat.

Had Bailey committed either of those he would've been crucified on here.

i like to think I am fair handed with praise and criticism and dole both out regardless of reputation so, yes, I think peacock major factor behind our defeat.

I think Bailey is certainly worth his place in the squad as a rotation prop.

Peacocks ill discipline is a problem. Not just his recent punch ups but he does tend to get penalised for high shots fairly regularly. His pass to Burrow was a poor play but a great spot by the Manly 2nd rower who hit him with what appeared to me at the time a fair hit(not seen any replays). That said what he brings to the team far outweighs any negatives.
My point was though that we were up against a far superior team on the night who were a joy to watch a times. IMO with Burrow fully fit for 80 mins and Peacock not in the bin the result would have been the same.

You're right I suspect but those incidents involving Peacock didn't help.

I just think its' indicative of this board and our fans that this barely warrants any negative comment (of course, most of the time he doesn't) yet bailey is hung out to dry.

I was saying this towards the back end of last season when Peacock looked to be shattered by McLennan's insistence on having him on the park for 70 minutes a game. What footwork he had has gone, his offload game has gone and he generally looks like he's having to make a massive effort to drag his body around the field at times.

I'll stand back and put the tin helmet on for the replies, but the current Jamie Peacock is a shadow of the player in his first season at Leeds. I'll give it another season tops before he ends up a shell of his former self like Fielden.

If Bailey had shown the rank indiscipline Peacock has this season he would have got slaughtered on here.

Peacock is not on top form but we are only 4 games into this season, IMO his first year at Leeds was his worst so far.

JP was the only one taking the fight to Manly on Sunday-On a side note the pre-math entertainment was shocking.Thou that singers microphone not working was a highlight.

Who was the girl group?

They were quite a distance from us, and all we could work out was that it wasn't Girls Aloud, and probably not The Saturdays.

You mean the hotties singing Kings Of Leon, my ears were closed, my eyes were open.

It was a new band put together by the radio aire dance team the blonde lass was amy burrow!
I got told at the dance acadamy on monday night!

New band 'Not Infected'. Sounds a winner to me.

Peacock may have missed 10 mins but i would put my life on the fact that he still made more yards than Bailey against Manly. Then, possibly against HullKR but not certain, if you think of all the penalties that Bailey gives away compared to Peacock, im sure it would be a landslide in Bailey's favour!

You could in for a surprise there!!

Quote ="fiddestherhino"Peacock may have missed 10 mins but i would put my life on the fact that he still made more yards than Bailey against Manly. Then, possibly against HullKR but not certain, if you think of all the penalties that Bailey gives away compared to Peacock, im sure it would be a landslide in Bailey's favour!'" www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 Bailey has conceded 4 pens to JP's 3 although Peacock has also been sin binned. However, don't think these stats include WCC. Also on metres Bailey has made 217 metres from 27 carries (8m per carry average) with 6 tackle busts compared to Peacock 421 from 64 (6.5m average) with only 5 tackle busts.

Quote ="fiddestherhino"Peacock may have missed 10 mins but i would put my life on the fact that he still made more yards than Bailey against Manly. Then, possibly against HullKR but not certain, if you think of all the penalties that Bailey gives away compared to Peacock, im sure it would be a landslide in Bailey's favour!'" www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 Bailey has conceded 4 pens to JP's 3 although Peacock has also been sin binned. However, don't think these stats include WCC. Also on metres Bailey has made 217 metres from 27 carries (8m per carry average) with 6 tackle busts compared to Peacock 421 from 64 (6.5m average) with only 5 tackle busts.

So Bailey's the better prop because he makes more metres and breaks more tackles. Case closed.

Sorry must have missed the part where I said that. Just thought it might shut some of the fekwits up who complain about Bailey's lack of go forward.

Put yer claws away.

Phrase: tongue - in - cheek

come to mind?

Like Frankie Says......

Sorry fella no hard feelings, had one of those days!

No probs fella.

Let's move on, nothing to see here but an hysterical woman.

You need to change the banner in your signature mate, the info on it is wrong

That reminds me I need some fake Ugg boots for our lass, I've been told you could help.

Bailey's Warrington stats seem to re-enforce both views held about him.

56 metres made from 13 drives at an average of 4.31 and conceding his customary 2 penalties (just as he has done in all 3 SL fixtures he's played.)

25 completed tackles with no misses and no handling errors.

Something in there for both camps.