I agree with this. Although i do think some are being a little over critical, the post from Printer further back with the direct quote from Ferres makes a fair point, he is still coming back from injury. I hope and expect him to improve by getting a long run in the team from here, if he is still mediocre come the end the year with a long run behind him that i think it's fair game to lay into him but i think he deserves a few months to prove his worth.

I think he will come good. Always rated him to be fair, and if you had a fully fit and firing Ferres im sure he would have had that left second row spot ahead of McMeeken against Samoa (although McMeeken has been superb) IMO obviously

He was excellent for the last few years for Huddersfield and especially England, which proves he has something about him. Last year was a virtual write off for us and he has barely played a handful of games for us this year so far, i too am quietly confident he will come good with game time.

I believe ferres is carrying an injury, apparently he has not been able to train flat out for some time. Certainly looking at the half time shot of him shirtless at the magic week end game would confirm that.
The coaching staff should sort the briscoe problem out, at the moment he looks like he does not want to be on the pitch. It's not good for team morale if the team works hard to score, then poor defense negates the score.

I have to disagree. Briscoe has looked good when we have gone well, but when we have struggled or the pressure has been on, he has been nowhere to be seen at best and a liability at worst. An awful dropped ball cost us the game in the play-offs 2014, Was great in 2015, poor last year and poor this.

Im not saying he is a terrible player but for a big name international coming in to the prime of his career he should have really kicked on when he signed for us but he has taken a step backwards if anything.

I don't disagree but several long term injuries have taken there toll

He's not our least effective player, he just hasn't lived up to expectations.

I agree with Biff.

And to Smokey, you couldn't be more wrong (no change there) with your 'big fish small pond' comment. Ferres has always been one of the best on the field when playing for England.

Worked for us get off your high horse.

Just because a players doesn't work out at one club doesn't mean he won't at another - Leeds fans in particular seem to struggle with this concept.

Must agree with some others on here. If we judged players on last season we would only have kept about 3 players so to single him out is not right, especially given he had moved clubs and the situation surrounding that - you can call him out for that and fair enough but it will have taken a personal toll on him.

As for this year, he didn't get much of a pre season and then that stupid suspension so he has barely played. One thing he should take responsibility for is his weight which is disgraceful for a professional athlete, injuries or not.

When he is fit, the ground is hard and as a team we have confidence then judge him. For me it's too early and I believe he will come good.

He's actually gotten fatter since his ban, which shocked me. But for the daft penalties he's still got the tools to be one of the best in the comp. He was good against Warrington, hopefully he continues to improve

I don't understand how he can be so oveeweight. He is a decent player but should have used his 6 weeks off to get trim. Looks now like he went to an all inclusive for a few weeks

His outside activities would answer that.

Read the post I put on page 1 from his YEP interview about his groin injury and how much pain he was in with. Guy can't have been able to do much fitness work when he was struggling to get in and out of a car or bed.

Didn't struggle to get to the fridge.

In all seriousness though, I thought Friday was his best performance in a Leeds shirt and will hopefully get better as his fitness returns.

Ferres is the same size if not bigger than a lot of SL props. The plus is he's got more mobility and stamina, despite extra weight etc. I'd rather him be playing for us than against us.

He got the same treatment as Briscoe did at Magic. Playing badly, after his second try costing error, he was hauled off.

There was much rejoicing.

If anyone should have been rested after friday it is Ferres.he can barely get through a game a week with his current fitness levels.

I agree with biff re. Ferres playing too long. I fear we will suffer at some point in few weeks ahead due to work done by cuthbo, ferres, parcell and a few others in this past weekend.
Ferres may be big, strong etc but he ain't mobile at the moment.

The weekend showed our squad limitations. Cas brought in foster and larroyer to help share the burden. We drafted in Walters and ormondroyd at last minute to the 18, having a shorter turnaround after playing Saturday for Fev.

This year looks like second in a row where no 19 year old is offered a contract from the academy and the likes of smith, Jordan Roberts are not SL ready.

Fat Ferris needs to concentrate on his rugby rather than extra curricular activities.
A waste of space, could go back to Huddersfield for me but they wouldn't want him.
Maybe Bradford will take a risk on him.
Get rid now!!

Contribution to tonight's game?
NIL

Ferres is trying to play himself back to fitness which is never easy. If it was then there'd be no need for all that pre-season work. That said, he does still look to be at risk of an Elvis-style demise.

he's going to die on the ter?????

wouldn't bet against it. Would you?