Utter Rubbish? really.

Have you seen his book? did you hear his comments on the radio about Hardaker?

What about this




It's a million miles from utter rubbish mate, it's stone cold factual. This completely goes against everything this club has stood for and run as over the last 8 years.

Senior waited until he was out of the club (or at least he thought) before having a go. Now it's his usual only considerations, himself and money, that he's back with his tail between his legs.

GH is putting his personal friendship before the club and coach in this instance. It is a smack in the teeth to a coach whom against the odds has just given us arguably our greatest ever achievement.

Agree it offers us cover without costing too much, and not bringing in a big name or someone who would demand starting spot show to me that the kids will be given a shot to claim the centre spots for their own. Would be weird seeing keef in the rhino shirt without 4 on the back!

I think bringing Senior back,even on a pay as you play basis is a big mistake. Even before his book was published I thought it was mistake to keep him this year yet alone for 2012. It's vague what his role will be and he is still considering the offer. I think this proposal is all through friendship with Gary H. So much for a marquee replacement who could still slot in with Watkins and Hardaker!
Is the recruitment now over for 2012?

Agree 100% knows the club and players has a history for puttig Hall in the corner, can cover centre( where he is still better than Smith IMO) or second row. The fact he is a cub legend might make it a bit of a PR move aswell not that we needed one.

Mac and Keef would reconcile differences if it was for the good of the club, remember Keef was ousted when the club was at its lowest point this year. And the relationship can't be that sour as he's still been around the club all year, wembley with the medical staff etc.

IF he signs I bet he keeps 4 same way Burrow will keep 7 while playing super sub

No problem with Keith on a payp basis, Watkin should definitely be first choice but his body hasn't held up to SL very well so far has it.

Not read his book so no idea what he's said but it sounds like GH has a good relationship with McDermott and I would guess he didn't offer Keith anything without consulting him first.

Typo corrected.

Gotcha, what did Keith say about Zak Hardaker ?

Gotcha probably knows exactly but it was something about the GF being Hardakers worst game in blue and amber.

Given his outstanding displays this year, I can see where keef was sort of coming from. Hardaker was strong defensivley which was good to see, but he didn't have the dazzle he normally has in attack then agai he is only 19 and it was a GF so Keef was a bit harsh.

I think having him back will only help the young uns as if he signs he knows he wont be first choice, having the best english centre in the the last decade givng you pointers cant hurt, can it?

So... Peacock, Kylie, Moore, Bailey, Griffin, Kirke, Ambler, Singleton. I wonder if McDermott will employ the same rotation system as TS used in 2004. Ambler and Singleton will go out on loan at some point I reckon.

Why would Senior want to play for such a set of "negative tools" anyway?! He's about to reach the ranks of Jon Wilkin in terms of hypocriticalness!

Don't really have an issue with this. Doubt he'll play much but if he does he's good cover! Hopefully his main role be a mentor type to our 2 very promising prospects at centre. If it does get to the point where he has to play then that's fine. But as we have Ablett and Delaney as back up already, it might be a rare occurence. Plus we have Smith, who is getting paid to sit about at the mo. So surely he'd rather play Smith and get at least some value out of that rather than play Senior and have to pay him?!

Wasn't there a sizeable debate on another thread about you passing off your opinion as "stone cold" fact?
If Senior has such a poor effect on squad unity why was he part of the squad at Wembley despite being injured? Why was he invited by McDermott & the players to the after GF p[ii[/iss up?

Obviously GH isn't thrilled with some of Senior's comments in his book, hence the final paragraph of that article. So why, if it risked the squad unity built under the stewardship of GH, would GH risk that if Senior would be disruptive?
Are you just disappointed that your Nostradamus-like prophecy regarding this squad hasnt come true?

Surely Lee Smith will be released this post season?!

I would expect so but as he hasn't yet, I'm still classing him as a Leeds player. Is he OOC? And if not, would we have to pay him off?

Smith, who has 3 years left on his contract iirc, should be given another year to see if he can regain previous form/fitness to replace Brent Webb in 2013.

In any event he's handy cover to have around, and it's not like Watkins/BJB/Hardaker never get injured, and it's also not like we need to release anyone else (after Burgess, Cross, Lauititi and Buderus) to fit new signings under the cap.

God no. I don't know how many props we need. It's not a surprise though.

And I for one do not want Senior back on any kind of deal. We've already proved we don't need him.

I hope this isn't the full extent of Mr Hetherington's signings as I, for one, am not impressed.

If Senior writes something in a book and puts it out to the public, is that my opinion or is it factual?

The factual that he wrote it, rather than what he said.

It's not like you to over-react is it Gotcha.

You've been lambasting GH for about three years and telling us all for about 3 years this squad was done. You've been made to look foolish. So, you still need an axe to grind with GH and this is what you come up with. That he has offered one of Leeds greatest servants and SL greatest players a pay as you play deal at the end of his career.

OMG, what a terrible thing. Hang GH by his boot straps.

I don't know the ins and outs and GHs relationship with McDermott or, for that matter Senior's relationship with McDermott. Neither do you, however much you pretend to be "in the know" on here.

I am willing to trust GHs judgment over years, yet again, because, after all, he's the one who really knows what he is doing.

I don't see where all the confusion about us signing two props has come from, for me they are replacements for the two props we lost in Cross and Burgess. Obviously if we started last season with the same amount of props so we were essentially playing last season two men down. As I can't see them being on bigger wages than Burgess and Cross I would imagine we still are looking for a replacement for Lautitti, and still have cap room with Buderus' departure for a hooker or outside back. Senior on pay as you play won't take up much cap space either. We should still have room for 2 or 3 signings I rekon.

Only until the end of July or he is ours

I agree that smith should be given another year to try and prove and play his way back into the team, and he does offer some good utility value

From previous interviews I was under the impression we will be spending up to cap and replacing buderus with someone of equal quality.

So far
Ali gone: would guess had a big chunk of cap
Buderus: as above
Senior: as above
Webb: 1yr extention would assume less cap space used
Kylie: As above
Kirke: As above

Cross gone
Burgess gone

And we have brought in Moore, griffin and new extensions to a few player on what will probably be improved terms.
If we believe the sleeve then there should be more announcements in the future IMO we still should have lots of cap space left

Oh for gods sake, grow some pal, and stop been so childish pathetic and agenda driven.

Did Keith Senior say or not say only this weekend?



As Hetherington not just come out today and said that the club offered Keith a one year deal before his injury, which McDermott pointed out he would have to fight for his place?

As Hetherington not just come out and said it was dissapointing the comments attributed to the club from Keith?

Does this all sound like the coach is happy with this arrangement?

"Being".



I've no idea. Neither do you however much you pretend. I'd like to think Hetherington is smart enough to have discussed this with his coach. I am very confident that McDermott is as far from a "yes man" as you can get and will have let GH know his feelings.

It all sounds like a storm in a tea cup and an over reaction to it from you IMO.

They are all grown adults and I'm sure they can work through a very trivial spat, Senior took the bigger contract at Crusaders (and who can blame him at his age), I'm sure some stuff he said was to promote his book and nothing too serious.

Hardaker sounds like he's made of sterner stuff than Jon Wilkin and can take a bit of constructive criticism and deal with by no more than a shrug of the shoulders.