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| Im a bit suspicious of the pledge numbers since as has been said they were about 3,000 short not so long ago. Considering the length of time the pledge had been going its suprising that so many people signed up so quickly.
Having said that, fair play to Bradford for trying things to turn around the club. A Bradford that doesn't win things is always fun to a Leeds fan such as myself. A weak Bradford club is not funny for the game or for Leeds. Well not for long anyway.
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| Maybe Bradford are slowly coming back down to earth, for their natural position in the rugby world.
I remember trips to Northern in the early nineties, a dark miserable place, with frowning supporters and an average team. With middle of the road results.
Meh.
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| Quote ="Exeter Rhino"This is good news for Bradford and Leeds. Hopefully it will mean more of Bradford's following will be coming to Headingley, and that our derby will be revitalised to the levels of the early-mid 00s.'"
Doubt it. It will be a very long time until those days come back around.
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| Quote ="Exeter Rhino"This is good news for Bradford and Leeds. Hopefully it will mean more of Bradford's following will be coming to Headingley, and that our derby will be revitalised to the levels of the early-mid 00s.'"
The only problem with someone who's used a calculator to work out that they are paying £5 or so a game to watch each home match is that they are going to bitch and whine like hell when they have to come to Headingley and pay £20 on the gate, you can eat at McDonalds all week for that sort of money.
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| Quote ="Bulls1989"just thought id let you know
COMMMMEEEEEEEEEE ONNN YOU BULLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'"
I listen to the Pulse and they've been giving loads away every day all last week.... I bet they're included as well
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"I remember trips to Northern in the early nineties, a dark miserable place, with frowning supporters and an average team. With middle of the road results.'"
Unless we were playing Leeds of course, more often than not it was 2pts to us IIRC!
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| The last breath of a dying club on a life support machine.
What's hilarious as well, is they've got potter. So a return to 'no plan b' style of play.
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| Quote ="Wheels"Oh.'"
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"Maybe Bradford are slowly coming back down to earth, for their natural position in the rugby world.
I remember trips to Northern in the early nineties, a dark miserable place, with frowning supporters and an average team. With middle of the road results.
Meh.'"
And between 1979 and 1999 you won how many trophies?
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| Quote ="Banielates"they've got potter. So a return to 'no plan b' style of play.'"
At least we'll have a "plan A" - unlike our time under McNamara.
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| Quote ="Liz Lemon"And between 1979 and 1999 you won how many trophies?'"
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| Quote ="Bullseye"At least we'll have a "plan A" - unlike our time under McNamara.
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Roll on Internationals.
If you thought previous years were bad..............................
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| It's an interesting experiment being carried out at Odsal. I hope it pays off for them in the long term and if it doesn't then at least they tried something rather than succumbing to the inevitable decline while bitching and moaning every step of the way, which I'm fairly sure would have been the case under the previous Chairman.
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| I wonder if these 'fans' will still turn up on gamedays if the team play as they have this season?
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Never ones for letting facts get in the way of a good gloat? Guess we'd do the same if roles were reversed, of course.
Funnily enough, I will be paying £99 for my seat which cost me IIRC about £190 early bird pricing last year, so that does not sit with your 30% theory. Last year Bulls had just over 5k season ticket holders, including kids and concessions. This year looks like we will have over 10k PLUS kids and concessions, since the latter pledges did not count towards target. And pretty well everybody knows someone who did not pledge who was hanging back to "wait and see". Also, these prices hold only for a month or so, after which they go up between 50% and 100% (the £60 terrace tacket becomes £120, for example) - result being the club gets far more cash in earlier. Had the club NOT done this, I doubt more than about 4k would have bought season tickets. Add in the likely big boost to securing sponsorship income, and of course the significant ancillary income from supporters, and in fact the maths make a great deal of sense.
Will still count for little if the team does not perform, but that's for another day. At least another part of the necessary platform is built now.
But as someone said earlier, its not as if you lot are interested, or have any reason to be, as it hardly concerns you. The OP should have known better.'"
Do you believe everything thing that comes out of Odsal? [size=65**cough cough Odsal Sports Village cough cough**[/size
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| Quote ="LS16_Rhino"Do you believe everything thing that comes out of Odsal? [size=65**cough cough Odsal Sports Village cough cough**[/size'"
Is that in any way relevant to what I posted? Maybe you can kindly enlighten us as to which part of what I said came "out of Odsal", as opposed to being published fact or my own opinion?
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Is that in any way relevant to what I posted? Maybe you can kindly enlighten us as to which part of what I said came "out of Odsal", as opposed to being published fact or my own opinion?'"
Got an answer as to why Bailey is a thug and not Chev Walker yet?
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Is that in any way relevant to what I posted? Maybe you can kindly enlighten us as to which part of what I said came "out of Odsal", as opposed to being published fact or my own opinion?'"
Where did these 'published facts' come from?
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| I hope that the Hood and co are telling the truth about this, and that the fans do in fact turn up in the numbers being reported. It would be rather silly to give out attendances that are in fact above those who actually attend the games and therefore increasing the tax burden like those in charge of BCFC have done this year...
Still at least the Bulls don't have form for this one.
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| How does people turning up or not increase the tax burden? Either you get income or you don't. Claiming in the papers to have 20,000 fans when there really are only half that doesn't impact your income in any way.
I say congratulations to the Bulls for trying something different. Its amazing what difference a big crowd can make tio the experience of going to a game - hopefully those that go 'on the cheap' next year will want to go again.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"How does people turning up or not increase the tax burden? Either you get income or you don't. Claiming in the papers to have 20,000 fans when there really are only half that doesn't impact your income in any way.
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No but its the sort of thing that raises a flag down at the local tax office when the returns appear, even a rudimentary amount of investigation would reveal that "Club XXX" were claiming an average of 20,000 through the gate across the season and yet their turnover only indicated around 10,000 - cause for further investigation or re-assessment leading to awkward questions such as "so how exactly do you measure your crowd numbers, do they all get a ticket/receipt, are your turnstiles capable of accurate measurements, have you kept the records, can we see them NOW.
If you can't answer the questions they'll simply re-asses the club at their best guess (20,000), maybe fine the club for incorrect submission, maybe even prosecute for deliberately under declaring, and certainly fine for incorrect quarterly VAT submissions - even though the club's original submissions may have been correct, you don't want to mess with those people.
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| Quote ="Era of the Biff"Got an answer as to why Bailey is a thug and not Chev Walker yet?'"
It's a fair question to ask, again.
I wonder why you haven't been answered yet?
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