A heavy loss at cas and could be his last game.

Nope, would have to lose to Catalans as well.

I reckon we could get absolutely tonked in both and the club would still wait until the season's end to call it a day. And even that assumes a poor run of results subsequent to those games.

I thought his new contract stated he had to win 4 out of 10 games to avoid the sack?

I was responding to the point about heavy loss, rather than just a loss post made. And you might be correct, but way I was told, it was lose 60% out of a sequence of games. Which of course 4 out of 10 is the same, but probably a fairer run.

i dont think we can afford to wait ten games or so by then the top four is a long shot if were already 8-10 points down at the halfway point. we must win at least 2 of our next 3 at if we do lose one then if its a close game and the side is improving so be it. but so far this season we are not going forward and all the signs say two losses and maybe a good hiding are due. hope i am wrong. i for one cannot stomach another hiding by Cas,

Usually quite tight at there place. Twice when they stormed ahead of us in 2015 at home, one was from a 4 day turnaround because we decided to stick with our Sunday fixture prior whereas Cas went and got there's moved to the Friday and the other was post Wembley when we looked shattered.

People are kidding themselves about the sack. There is no evidence McDermott is under no pressure at all and seems to have full respect of clubs heirachy rightly or wrongly.

Cant see him going anywhere for a while. End of season maybe if we struggle again.

All this 60% stuff doesnt add up as something GH would do at all.

Having full respect doesn't equate to full backing if/when things start going t1t$ up.

A string of bad results may well test the resolve of Garry and paul caddick. Especially having to listen to the chants of taxi for Brian.

Congrats to McD. He's not the man to take the club forward but he certainly was the man to get the best out of the team he inherited, which he did. I only wish he'd moved on after 2015 and then people wouldn't feel the need to call him names now. I think if I met him I'd like him, I've certainly liked a lot of what I've seen of him over the years but there are other people that this club needs right now. It's a very different job to the one he did up to 2015.

I would echo those sentiments.

I really wouldn't want to see Mac being force out to a chorus of boos abuse from the fans but it does seem that is the only way he will be leaving the club right now

Be fortunate to spend enough time at a club like Leeds in a comp of have and have-nots and even a wage stealer will eventually rack up a hundred league wins.

McDermott's win % in said fixtures is actually one of the worst seen at Leeds during the SL era.

I don't think he will get sacked midseason no matter how we are doing. But a finish out of the top 4 with no CC and I think everyone will see the need for a change.

He knows how to get players up for the really big games, but under Mac we have never been consistent enough, remember that if we always had the top 4 playoffs like we do now, Mac could only have won one GF.

But we didn't and he did.

Played the system to perfection and game up trumps.

I too would be quite surprised if he was sacked mid season. More likely an announcement that this season will be his last and the successor for 2018 announced.

I'd agree with this.

Generally, I think caddick/hetheringtons loyalty to coaches is admirable but surely after last year he's should be hanging by a thread and the fact that our problems from last year are still unaddressed doesn't reflect well.

We really can't wait that long other wise it will take us years to recover he has to go now,

Can't wait to be playing Bradford again

The annoying thing is that this year should have started the rebuilding properly. Instead, despite what happened last year we've pushed any major squad changes to next year at the earliest.

BTW I don't think its just loyalty to BM that stopped Hetherington punting him. From some of his comments last year he bought into the excuses as much as anyone.

We must be due a letter from Gary telling us not to panic

Pretty please Brian.

It's back

Thanks for your contribution Big Mac now time is up who can replace him?
My shout is king Kev

Getting the right coach is more important than getting a new coach imo. For that we may have wait . I think Sinfield would be the wrong option as he is too close to too many in a squad that needs some strong decisions.