I don't know why we would need Hospitality boxes in the South Stand anyway! Cant see any problems with the plans. There is a bigger picture which is a new North Stand with new corporate boxes in there, so there is no point having them all around the stadium. We currently have up to 1500 corporate spaces on a match day which is plenty. A new North Stand would bring more in, so worry about hospitality boxes later!

Is it lower than the current stand?
If so & being lower than the original proposal at least more sun will get on to the pitch which should help the grass recover better.
I thought one reason for playing games away at the end of this season was to get cracking earlier on replacing the pitch, or has this also been dropped from the plans in the interests of economy?

I think it's important to understand who this particular document has been prepared for. This is a consultation paper and I'm guessing the only people whose opinion matters at the moment are local residents/property owners who may object to the development as it goes through planning.

So this is not part of the normal line of club-produced guff bigging things up, rather it's focussing to significant degree on the development's conservatism and timidity compared to what they really wanted. Or what they want people to think they wanted but have munificently given up for the benefit of the local community ....

No. Clear photgraphic evidence of something actually being built rules that out.

Now, if it was a photo of the T&A with the headline 'SUPER STADIUM PLAN FOR ODSAL!' your guess might have been correct.

I know the club initially wanted it to be the same design as the Carnegie Stand but when the Carnegie cash cow dried up and they realised they would have to foot the bill themselves they scaled their ides back a little.

It's a shame the new stand won't increse the capacity more and that there will be no more corporate facilities but these plans look more realistic in the current climate.

There's not many clubs that could fund smething like this themselves and we're so well run now that we can.

Not read the whole thread but has anyone mentioned last year's accounts? The club increased it's turnover to 11.1 million which is a fantastic performance. Also, 2.3 million of that came from commercial and corporate income so corporate facilities are very important.

Missed opportunity and ideally they should wait until the finances are in place to fulfil the original designs - but I think it's a case of "damned if you do damned if you don't".

I've looked through them and turnover is up but only when compared to a 10 month period the year before - £11.1m vs £10.4m for the 10 months. So we're back to the entertaining but unfruitful debate we had last year as to whether November and December are especially low revenue months with only one game but Christmas sales on the retail and corporate side in there.

Perhaps the most interesting thing in the accounts is the note that "it has been considered prudent to create a provision for possible liabilities arising from an industry wide challenge by HM Revenue and Customs the outcome of which has yet to be conclued". No figure is disclosed for the provision but I estimate it to be £526,925

I hadn't spotted that.

I guess income is high in those months with season ticket renewals and the new replicashirts

That is only £1.5m less than HMRC think they owe!

These are my two favourite grounds... other than Headingley of course!

Where we gonna find someone that tall to hold up our new roof?

Seriously underwhelmed by the picture, but pleased with the amount of room for expansion (subject to planning) of course

Here's an interesting design concept. If it'd been me i'dve gone for a 'like for like' solution.

Wayne McDonald if he's not busy.

Let's not mess about and just build something similar to this, it only cost $1.3 billion

You really don't want a huge screen hanging above the southstand, it would be covered in spitballs by the final whistle.

Or that f*cking cut up newspaper that gets f*cking everywhere.

Or Beer. I'm often covered in beer when somebody gets too excited. Which as a teetotaller is particularly annoying. Primarily because I'm usually sober and grumpy.

has anyone been to hq for one of those discussions and points of view on the new Soutsthstand?If so what kind of spin are they putting on it?

Is/was there cake at these discussions?

I believe he lodges with Richie Ramrod these days.

Like for like without the pillars, with terraces that will not fall down and better facilities. That would have been perfect. The roof looks like one of those that will not keep the atmosphere in. Pretty much the one thing the South Stand has had going for it over the last 20 years is the atmosphere that gets generated and trapped in by the low roof. The view has always been awful, although less so since they took out the spiral staircase.

I still feel like I can see less with the old thing gone!

And I miss Stevo and Eddie climbing it pre-match. I'd love it if Clarke had to do it nowadays.

These are my thoughts exactly. All the marketing GH has done over the years with the "South Stand Brand" i.e merchandise & mentions in the press of the unique atmosphere etc looks very hollow indeed now. Two of the crucial factors in positive atmosphere generated have been the low roof and the fact that the ground has always been compact with no big gaps in the corners.

With the raised corner of the western terrace (behind the flood light) being reduced, the South Stand / East Stand joining terrace being removed & now what appears to be the terrace joining the west stand and south stand being taken away I fear the atmosphere and unique "Headingley experience" will be dampened significantly.

The biggest critisisms from Warrington fans about their "new ground" when it was built was the gaps in the corners & high roof. They are about to start work on filling in 2 corners.

There is a small online survey, plus an email address to send comments to at the bottom of this link. I would urge all to do so: www.therhinos.co.uk/fanzone/southstand.php

There is a small online survey, plus an email address to send comments to at the bottom of this link. I would urge all to do so: www.therhinos.co.uk/fanzone/southstand.php