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| Just got home from the game, I expected us to be rusty and we were. Disappointing errors and lack of punch from the forwards in the first half, but better in the second half. Handley’s first was a belter, his second from a lovely kick, and Sam Lisone showed how you run onto a ball for his try.
Different view of Frawley from me, as you probably expect, he doesn’t really offer anything. His first play was the poor penalty kick that didn’t make touch, and then whilst some will say he takes the line on, he’s so slow it’s completely ineffective. Let’s hope he improves, we need more than a simple pass to the next man from a halfback, and if that’s his idea of organising play it leaves a lot to be desired.
Forwards looked ‘ploddy’ to start with, and we got rolled down the middle a lot, but the aggression picked up a bit in the second half.
Overall a 5/10 performance, plenty to work on but 2 points in the bag.
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| I hope Smith has a look at what worked in the pack in particular. Now we've got through his testimonial emotion there should be no place for Donaldson in the 17, let alone starting, unless we're decimated by injuries. Based on that I'd look at both Ruan and TNW for next week. They both bring energy and aggression with the ball, which too many of our forwards lack.
The other thing is, and somebody mentioned this, but we need Cameron Smith to work out what his role is. He cannot be getting too much early ball at first receiver, as it stifles the attack. People said he did that last year because there were no other options, but frankly he needs to get out of the way of the play and accept he's not a playmaker but a ball handling forward.
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| Just heard Smiths press conference and got to agree with him regarding the stoppages in the game. Not been allowed to kick for touch because a player stops to put a boot on was a joke. As was the length of time taken to look at the mom sin binning.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"Just got home from the game, I expected us to be rusty and we were. Disappointing errors and lack of punch from the forwards in the first half, but better in the second half. Handley’s first was a belter, his second from a lovely kick, and Sam Lisone showed how you run onto a ball for his try.
Different view of Frawley from me, as you probably expect, he doesn’t really offer anything. His first play was the poor penalty kick that didn’t make touch, and then whilst some will say he takes the line on, he’s so slow it’s completely ineffective. Let’s hope he improves, we need more than a simple pass to the next man from a halfback, and if that’s his idea of organising play it leaves a lot to be desired.
Forwards looked ‘ploddy’ to start with, and we got rolled down the middle a lot, but the aggression picked up a bit in the second half.
Overall a 5/10 performance, plenty to work on but 2 points in the bag.'"
Totally agree on the Frawley front... Thought he was garbage.. along with the new centre.. Ackers did ok.. Newman runs up his own as normal... too much jumping... would love to have had Nene still in a leeds shirt.. was better than both our centres combined. Cameron smith stalls play... not sure what his role is gonna be.. Sangare is a big pudding, Miller looks class however.. Croft tackled well but not really in the game,,, Bentley is too light and we need James McDonnell back asap.. Other than that it was a win in the first game,,, Hopefully big improvements in the coming weeks. With the money spent, anything less than top 4 then Smith will be gone end of season. Think Wigan and Saints will be miles ahead in terms of quality. Onwards and upwards.
The reffing was bad for both teams, out of his depth. Salford did their best to slow the game to a plod which doesn't make for a spectacle for supporters.
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| Quote ="Sir Gregory ParsloeP"As many have said , good we got a
Win but disappointed so much of it looked similar to last season.
Too much ball in Cam Smith’s hands and nowhere near enough in Croft’s and Newman’s.
Salford made it scrappy.
Handley, Lisone excellent, good bits from Millar.
Tough test next week, thought HKR were very good v Fc.'"
Really? i thought KR were poor, no organisation and no kicking game, Hull FC were just utter dire.
Anyway a wins a win, I knew it would take a while to really click and remember Rowley knows croft and ackers games inside out so will have based the game plan around that.
I disagree we looked like the 2023 side, there was a lot of movement and running lines, they just didn’t quite click.
Anyway first ‘home’ round one win since 2018, and i feel a lot more positive than last years opening game.
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| Happy with the win, didnt play well but showed some decent signs at times.
In all the positive happenings of pre season, re- signing Bentley and Fusitua were the 2 decisions i didnt like, no suprises that 1 was sh*te yet again and the other injured yet again, amazed the club made these deals when any fan with an ounce of knowledge and a level head could predict the outcome.
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| Just watched the post match interviews. RS looked totally disinterested and not for the first time. He might be trying to appear nonchalant but you would hope he's a bit more convincing and passionate in front of the players.
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| Fusitua should be done now if there's a way we can move him on. Roberts isn't the answer either.
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| Quote ="Barrie’s Glass Eye"Scrappy and disjointed with and without the ball.
Some good individual performances, Lisone, Mik and Frawley in particular amongst some not so good from others.
I think there’s something there and can accept clunky play with a completely new spine, but we definitely looked better when we went direct.
FWIW I thought our much maligned prop rotation was good with the exception of Donno who tries hard but just doesn’t belong there. Mik and Goudemand were solid. Lisone was excellent and was complemented by Sangare imo.'"
Are you in cuckoo land , Mik was great , Lisone is Great in very limited minutes , the rest of the forwards were garbage , especially Donaldson (should never prop again) , Goudemand is not big enough or good enough and as for Sangare
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| Quote ="Jrrhino"It was great to see Headingley rocking again a healthy 15k tonight and hopefully the team can keep bums on seats with wins like tonight. Lots to work on but it's round 1 and that's to be expected, Miller will be a real fan favourite he looks dangerous nearly everytime he returns the ball. Glad we got the 2 points, Momirovski sin bin is a joke and I think we'll be in for a long season if tackles like his are going to be a yellow card offences but ow we'll. One thing for sure is Sam Lisone is the best on earth.'"
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| Quote ="Sir Gregory ParsloeP"As many have said , good we got a
Win but disappointed so much of it looked similar to last season.
Too much ball in Cam Smith’s hands and nowhere near enough in Croft’s and Newman’s.
Salford made it scrappy.
Handley, Lisone excellent, good bits from Millar.
Tough test next week, thought HKR were very good v Fc.'"
H.K.R were ordinary but Hull were terrible , unfortunatley an ordinary H.K.R will beat Leeds by 20 with home advantage
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| Quote ="Loiner at large"Just watched the post match interviews. RS looked totally disinterested and not for the first time. He might be trying to appear nonchalant but you would hope he's a bit more convincing and passionate in front of the players.'"
Did we watch a different interview, I'm not sure where you're getting that from.
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| Quote ="kjrhino"Totally agree on the Frawley front... Thought he was garbage.. along with the new centre.. Ackers did ok.. Newman runs up his own booty as normal... too much jumping... would love to have had Nene still in a leeds shirt.. was better than both our centres combined. Cameron smith stalls play... not sure what his role is gonna be.. Sangare is a big pudding, Miller looks class however.. Croft tackled well but not really in the game,,, Bentley is too light and we need James McDonnell back asap.. Other than that it was a win in the first game,,, Hopefully big improvements in the coming weeks. With the money spent, anything less than top 4 then Smith will be gone end of season. Think Wigan and Saints will be miles ahead in terms of quality. Onwards and upwards.
The reffing was bad for both teams, out of his depth. Salford did their best to slow the game to a plod which doesn't make for a spectacle for supporters.'"
Salford had done their homework on the ref and just came with the intention of spoiling the game , fortunatley he just gave enough penalties and six agains to see us home
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"Are you in cuckoo land , Mik was great , Lisone is Great in very limited minutes , the rest of the forwards were garbage , especially Donaldson (should never prop again) , Goudemand is not big enough or good enough and as for Sangare
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I disagree and don’t think I’m in cuckoo land at all. When we got our heads down and focused on being direct we had a lot of joy, especially with the 2 players you mentioned. Like I said I agree with you on Bentley and Donaldson, but the rest of the pack went well enough, considering some of the doom and gloom we’ve had with our options. If no injuries return I’d give Ruan and TNW a run next week.
Also on Cam Smith, yeh he maybe needs to get out of the way a bit in good ball, but some of his carries were excellent and he did come up with the winning play.
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"Headingley Rocking ?
The Atmosphere was shocking , the south stand crowd is done !'"
Thought it was a good atmosphere. Take your earplugs out next time.
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| Quote ="Trebor1"Agree with all of that. Thought Salford were good to be fair to them, discipline cost them. Good game though and a wins a win early in the season.
As for new players. most were solid, not sure what to make of MOM thought he was all over place first half but improved. We lack punch when Donno Goudomomd on the field at same time. Lisone and Mik gave us much more.
Overall positive though in the main'"
I think perhaps we should look at who we are pair our props up with, so that it’s not the two smaller guys at the same time. Having said that I think goudemand ended up playing some 13 too.
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| I think we need to get shut of Fusi if we can, I’m sorry but he’s a complete liability. Out for 8 weeks or so and needs an Op… deary me.
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| Yeah he was in last chance saloon and that was his last chance. Sounds like an op was delayed too hoping hed be ok. Disappointing now all this considering the signing Salford have just made too. Bet Newmans delighted
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| We just about deserved to win although I still think we are poorly coached. Before the the smith fan club on here start squealing I am not suggesting he should be sacked. Some passages of play were dreadful ,players passing to players who were stood without running on to the ball. On the plus side thought big Mik put in a good shift, Handleys first try was an absolute gem, worth the admission money alone. Hopefully last night’s performance was a blip. Obviously we will have to perform better at rovers, they as per Salford run an aggressive defence ,quick out the line so it’s up to smith to counter that threat. Bet Hull FC wished they had Sneyd back, thought he had an outstanding game.
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| Surprised by the amount of negativity after a decent first win for the season.
I think massive credit is due to Salford, and Rowley is showing he’s one of the best coaches in the league. Their tactic was to stop our strike players, halves and 3/4s by being aggressive in line speed and slowing down the PTB. That’s the reason for all the pens, as they consistently messed about in the ruck. There were almost no quick PTBs for Ackers and Croft to run off the back of.
Can’t judge the signings after one competitive game, but thought killer showers glimpses of why he’s so hard to tackle.
Lisone and Hanley were class.
For me, I’d drop Donno and actually start goudamond at prop, I thought he was a lot more steady and looks more of a FR than Donno ever will.
Overall clunky, but it’s week one, and we were no worse than HKR last night who were against shocking opposition. Looking forward to next week!
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| Quote ="Sgy Loiner"TNW should be getting a shirt over him, kid’s been great pre season'"
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| Thought that rat Nene was superb last night too, he’s such an explosive runner. Cust looks a good signing for Salford too he was everywhere
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| Just on the Sky coverage the multiple screenshots offer absolutely nothing to the viewer, you just cant see whats going on and it seems out of sync with what the video refs looking at.
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| Smith needs to come up with some better tactics against teams slowing the game down, it was a major weakness last year and we struggled again. Salford are well coached and although the new set restart rule has reduced opportunities at slowing down, new ones are created by well timed head injuries which miraculously don't require a HIA. The pantomime with Sneyd placing the ball 6 or 7 times for a kick in front of the sticks waiting for the ref to stop the clock was embarrassing, I don't blame Sneyd they had a man in the bin, made the ref look a fool.
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"Headingley Rocking ?
The Atmosphere was shocking , the south stand crowd is done !'"
Got to say, I haven’t felt a good atmosphere since the old South Stand was demolished. It can be even worse depending where you are stood/sat. It’s our 1st year as season ticket holders on the Eastern Terrace, and last night wasn’t a great introduction. Is it just me or is Headingley turning into a crèche ? We had kids around us who never got off the floor, some who never actually faced the pitch, while the women held a mothers meeting and the blokes just looked disinterested. The game was disjointed and flat, but to me too many people just go to the rugby to meet up and have a chat and a beer. The game really does seem incidental to a lot of them. By contrast I thought the Salford fans were great, and I could still hear them as we walked up towards Headingley Lane afterwards. I thought the crowd mirrored our display, tepid.
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