I agree, but to play him in the centres, which village idiot came up with that brainwave?

Hardaker even had to take control and set the right example for that loose cannon that is regarded as a leader.

Its quite amazing how spoilt you all sound.

So what were your thoughts on the game then?

feck me we lost 2 points

The thread is not really about the 2 points - with the current league format, the 2 points are almost insignificant (and the players played that way too), and it's that attitude we're discussing.

The players absolutely turned up to last nights game in the complete wrong mindset to win the game or even put in a half decent performance. Is that acceptable when you've got paying punters?

Would you be happy going to a restraunt and being served by someone with a bad attitude and the food then being rubbish - but it's ok, they've got a big party in tomorrow night, so they're saving their best for that?

Poor performances are understandable and to be expected throughout a season, however seeing a team turn up with that attitude should never be accepted.

That's not about being spoilt, it's about expecting to see the team turn up to compete. Leeds didn't last night, and it probably says a lot about the state of the current Bradford team that we can turn in a display/effort that and still be in with a chance to win the game.

When did that happen?

we were sh-te. We lost. The end.

Its not the end though is it Bang , season ticket holders will be lost , occasional paying punters will be lost and oh just a thing about pride for those of us who have to listen to our workmates from Bradford going on about it for god knows how long . The other downside of course is a probable away semi in the play offs

I wasn't using the term leader for captain, don't worry.

There were plenty of players out there putting in the grunt and effort, they do not turn up and think oh well its raining and it's only Bradford so lets all toss it of for 80 minutes and then go to the pub.

The ball handling and conditions were poor not the worst ever by far. Our coach and senior players should have adapted their tactics a dam sight better then they did. It's boring but what is wrong in kicking the ball into the opposition 20 on the 2 or 3 tackle and making them bring it out into our defense. Force them into the errors in their 20 and then look to punish it. The lack of grubber kicks was amazing in the conditions. Also with the defense coming up "SO QUICK" why don't we ever use the chip kick, even if it does not work, so what it keeps the defenders wondering about the next set.

Over all this year we have had some entertaining games at Headingley and I for one will be renewing my season tickets. If you think we are playing crap then just cast your mind back to the mid 90's.

I agree with Bang, we were crap but still in with a chance of winning the shield, cup and grand final. Stop being so depressed.......

I disagree! When players are walking to scrums and taps within the first 10 minutes, that's a clear indication of the mindset they've come into the game with. No urgency, no intensity and no fight.

Whilst I agree that no player will have walked out there wanting to lose or toss it off, if you've not prepared physically and mentally for a good, hard, high intensity game, you'll turn out a flat performance like that.

It wouldn't be so bad if this had been the only time this year we've handled the ball so poorly & looked so bereft of ideas in attack.
For goodness sake The Bulls had more idea in attack than we did.

People have been saying for a few years now that the supporters will stop buying the season tickets and fans will stop attending matches........it's not happened though has it. We still remain at a constant level with attendances.

If you do a bit of research our crowds have dropped in the past IF the Club take their eye off the ball it will happen again and it would be foolish to think otherwise.

So, answer his question, when did that happen and what did you mean?

The same thing mentioned by numerous people in numerous posts. Watch the game, and you won't need someone else to tell you.

Such posts as this just prove how arrogant, one eyed, negative, ignorant, and juvenile some so-called "supporters" really are.




They conveniently forget or simply over look the fact that there are always 2 teams on the pitch and that in a restaurant there isnt a team from another restaurant trying to p!ss on the chefs chips or knock my meal out of the waitress hands all the time they are trying to serve me.

PS If you bought a season ticket then Friday nights match was free

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Bizarre.

What's arrogant or juvenile about being able to identify when the team have entered a game with the wrong mindset? Or are you saying the team didn't turn up with the wrong mindset? If so, I'd like to know what evidence you saw on Friday of a team putting their all in and mentally prepared for a battle. Or, is it that we're not supposed to talk about any poor performance/attitude from our team?

As for there being another team on the park, as I said earlier, despite Leeds poor attitude, they still weren't played off the park, although Bradford certainly wanted and deserved the win more on the night. However, Leeds turning up with the attitude they did to that game wasn't brought about because of how Bradford played on the night - as I've said earlier, it was evident right from the off.

Attitude:

3 semi final teams going into this week on the back of a win.

The other..... Hmmmmmmmm.

Spot on and the other team could and should have been top of the League on Friday night.
Not sure if it is attitude or performance that has resulted in the result or both maybe.
Maybe next time the players should let the supporter`s know how they feel before the game and we could have stayed at home and watched a decent game on SKY or better still Corrie.

Last year the week before losing to Hudds in the cup we beat Bradford in the league with a pretty much full strength line-up of

Hardaker
Watkins
Ablett
Moon
Hall
Sinfield
McGuire
Leuluai
Burrow
Peacock
Achurch
Delaney
JJB

McShane
Kirke
Bailey
Clarkson

I don't really recall many saying afterwards they were glad we aimed for the 2 league points and how important it could be to our final playoff position. More the case of we should've rested guys for the more important game. We also won comfortably yet the 'confidence' from that win didn't show up in our showing against Hudds the following week. We also got battered by Hudds 48-24 in the last game of the 2012 regular season (and they played most of the game with 12 men).....we then put in arguably the best playoff showing by any team.

You get my drift.

I am sure we would, if you were actually comparing like for like. You are comparing apples with pebbles though it seems. Did we have a run of poor performances before either of those losses you talk of?