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| Refs, like players, have good games and bad games. Today the whistling Frenchman had shocker in all directions – in fact there were some calls given today that were simply bizarre.
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| That knock on by us which was let go on the halfway line was fantastic
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"That knock on by us which was let go on the halfway line was fantastic'"
What about the high tackle on Sinfield on Hudds 10m line? He let that go and they then went and made a break.. luckily Donald showed amazing speed to catch up.
All to often the ref was looking to his TJ to help him out, as if he didn't actually know what to do
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| The one that got me was the decision to penalise Senior in the first half, when he was being pushed over the try line. I'm assuming it was for playing on after he'd called held, unless anyone knows different?
Also, he kept a very, very skinny 10m. In truth I never noticed if he was doing that when Hudds were attacking, but I'm assuming it was the same for both sides.
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| Quote ="Lord_Percy"The one that got me was the decision to penalise Senior in the first half, when he was being pushed over the try line. I'm assuming it was for playing on after he'd called held, unless anyone knows different?
Also, he kept a very, very skinny 10m. In truth I never noticed if he was doing that when Hudds were attacking, but I'm assuming it was the same for both sides.'"
He indicated senior had lead with his forearm.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"He indicated senior had lead with his forearm.'"
Nah. He gave it for playing the ball after been tackled. Got it wrong like, should have been penalty to Leeds for tackling after the tackle completed, but that was his decision.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Nah. He gave it for playing the ball after been tackled. Got it wrong like, should have been penalty to Leeds for tackling after the tackle completed, but that was his decision.'"
That's what I thought as well.
If it was for leading with the forearm, he sure waited a long time before giving the decision, it's not as though he'd play advantage in those circumstances.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"to be fair the previous times he has reffed us this season he has been good. today he was appalling though and i can't defend him whatsover'"
Spot on. Im always a bit wary of Terry on the VR duties, but have been a staunch defender of him when he has the whistle, all you can say he was poor for both teams, very,very poor.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Nah. He gave it for playing the ball after been tackled. Got it wrong like, should have been penalty to Leeds for tackling after the tackle completed, but that was his decision.'"
He "INDICATED" that senior had lead with the forearm and i agree we should of got the penalty because he'd called held and the giants tacklers were still trying to put him into touch.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Nah. He gave it for playing the ball after been tackled. Got it wrong like, should have been penalty to Leeds for tackling after the tackle completed, but that was his decision.'"
He din't play the ball though did he, he threw it back. IMO Senior did the right thing, because if he did shout held then he couldn't play the ball because he was getting puched into touch. Poor decisioon IMO
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| I thought he had a good game and you should all stop moaning or ref yourself.
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| At the end of the day, without him, there was no game yesterday! get over yourselves and give the guy a break, he's doing a job that no one wants to do, but everyone likes to criticise.
The thing with Thierry is that he does not give clear signals, so the supporters get on his back. At the end of the day, so long as the players know what he's given a decision for, what does it matter?
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| Quote ="Cala Millor Rhino"
The thing with Thierry is that he does not give clear signals, so the supporters get on his back. At the end of the day, so long as the players know what he's given a decision for, what does it matter?'"
Actually that's a very good observation. Some of his signals are unclear and you're left in the stand wondering what he's given and why. It also makes him look a bit like he's making it up as he goes along.
Seen him ref a few times this season and I don't think he's any worse than the others. I think yesterday was the poorest performance I've seen from him, but I doubt he favoured one side over the other. He did seem to struggle with the concept of a high tackle yesterday, nor did he seem fussed about two feet behind the line (but which ref does?).
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| Quote ="Essex Rhino"Actually that's a very good observation. Some of his signals are unclear and you're left in the stand wondering what he's given and why. It also makes him look a bit like he's making it up as he goes along.
Seen him ref a few times this season and I don't think he's any worse than the others. I think yesterday was the poorest performance I've seen from him, but I doubt he favoured one side over the other. He did seem to struggle with the concept of a high tackle yesterday, nor did he seem fussed about two feet behind the line (but which ref does?).'"
For mine, he got 99% of the high tackle calls right, they weren't high tackles, they hit the shoulder first, if there was something he missed, it was the grabbing around the head and neck during the "wrestle" and on the floor!
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| like i said earlier, he has reffed us 3 times this season. twice he has been very good, yesterday he was awful.
like players he should has to take the rough with the smooth. like players he doesn't mean to have a bad game.
the fact is he was terrible yesterday,it happens
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| Quote ="tad rhino"like i said earlier, he has reffed us 3 times this season. twice he has been very good, yesterday he was awful.
like players he should has to take the rough with the smooth. like players he doesn't mean to have a bad game.
the fact is he was terrible yesterday,it happens'"
why do you think he was terrible? i wouldn't go along with that theory!
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| Quote ="Cala Millor Rhino"why do you think he was terrible? i wouldn't go along with that theory!'"
There were a few times he didn't seem to know what to do. Looking to the touch judge as if he didn't have a clue what was going on.
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| Just watching the match highlights on the Superleague site, how the obstruction on Lee Smith was missed when Rob made the break just before Kylie's try is puzzling.
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| I would agree that all ref's have good and bad games. Many of the high tackles perhaps came off a shoulder.
However, I cannot defend how many times he allowed Huddersfield to be offside. Where we sit (Paddock, at very far right end, row eight) you can clearly see who has two feet on the line and I would say 90% of the time they didn't. I'm aware it would be a very stop-start game if we stopped to check that all the time and that perhaps Thierry couldn't see, but isn't that what the touch judge is for?
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| i didn't have any real issues with the refere on Sunday. I barely noticed him which is always a good sign.
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| Quote ="G1"i didn't have any real issues with the refere on Sunday. I barely noticed him which is always a good sign.'"
Bloody hell were you drinking?
Seriously, I tend to let things go by now, but I was getting well wound up in the second half, with the offside thing when Huddersfield were defending their line.
I know there was lots of other things. But the not even coming close to having one foot on the line, never mind 2, was getting my back up, when it was so absolutely clear.
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| Quote ="Charlieboo"I would agree that all ref's have good and bad games. Many of the high tackles perhaps came off a shoulder.
However, I cannot defend how many times he allowed Huddersfield to be offside. Where we sit (Paddock, at very far right end, row eight) you can clearly see who has two feet on the line and I would say 90% of the time they didn't. I'm aware it would be a very stop-start game if we stopped to check that all the time and that perhaps Thierry couldn't see, but isn't that what the touch judge is for?'"
Same for Leeds?
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| Quote ="Mark_W"Same for Leeds?'"
Not really because Leeds were not defending their line very often.
Could be the same in the middle of the pitch like. But defending the line, Huddersfield were clearly offside to all and sundry at every tackle, yet it was ignored.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Bloody hell were you drinking?
Seriously, I tend to let things go by now, but I was getting well wound up in the second half, with the offside thing when Huddersfield were defending their line.
I know there was lots of other things. But the not even coming close to having one foot on the line, never mind 2, was getting my back up, when it was so absolutely clear.'" I'd had a cuople of pints yes.
Seriously, he didn't bother me one bit. I just thought Huddersfield's speed off the defensive line was good and enthusiastic.
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| Quote ="G1"I'd had a cuople of pints yes.
Seriously, he didn't bother me one bit. I just thought Huddersfield's speed off the defensive line was good and enthusiastic.'"
It seems to be what Nathan Brown has got into them! like I said previously on this thread, no big issues from Thierry this week!
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