Speak to Furners son, he plays for Stanningley, he is a good kid, lots of his mates are players at Stanningley, it's well known at that club what went wrong. thats the story coming out from the players

KS inherited a hell of a job trying to undo 4 years or so of rubbish recruitment.

He was the best leader and captain this club has ever had. Certainly not perfect but you would expect him to have a firm idea of what success at Leeds needs to look like.

The reality is that it’ll take time for changes to take effect and time for the promising young players to mature.

It can’t be the case that we’re going to break into the top 5 as soon as we win a game, and then everybody at the whole club needs sacking when we lose a game.

The sooner we can get out of panic mode the better. We need to be able to plan recruitment if we're going to avoid ongoing mistakes.

Actually we beat Hull KR the last time we played them.

As for the rest of your diatribe about Sinfield, give over, the club has been to n this spiral long before he came back last year.

Brodie has an agenda against Sinfield for whatever reason, you will see the same stuff posted after every bad game we have. And unsurprisingly not anything after the last 2 games we've won.

Anyway after watching the game back I thought Lunt added a lot of structure I would start him next week, Ava was very good also

The team culture clearly fell to bits while BM was still here. 2017 wouldn't have helped - just look at some of the players in that team who won medals and probably thought they were superstars.

The squad was rotten to the core before Sinfield came back. He's made some poor decisions but he's also made some tough calls on coaches and players. Right now we need him to stay ruthless.

Lunt should definitely start. He's not an impact player and he'll only have an influence if he plays big minutes. Dwyer's the opposite.

This so called "team" simply didn't turn up to play tonight.Dreadful performance by all.
I do not blame Agar one bit,he didn't coach them to produce that dross.
This may upset some on here but one BIG weakness is Hurrell,he cannot read a defensive play,utter rubbish

We should have let Parcel go in order to get Merrin. Garbutt is exactly the kind of prop we need. A middle unit of Ava, Garbutt and Merrin, would be as good as any in the league.

Agree with that

I didnt say it was all Agars fault, thought the ' dumb penaltys and decisions, just terrible in every area' and the players attitudes comments int the very post you quoted made it pretty clear i wasnt putting all the blame on Agar, the players were a disgrace last night bar 1 or 2, but his team selection was wrong, no two ways about it. My feelings on Myler are no secret, Awful player.

Myler is truly horrendous. The quicker he's replaced the better

Garbutt 192m, more than both of your starting props combined. Outstanding decision to let him go

Yep. Utterly ridiculous

I’m going to stick up for Myler here. I’m not saying he wasn’t awful, he was. But he looked totally lacking in confidence. He’s had some good games for us, he’s better than the player that turned out last night.

With a proper 9 starting (Lunt), hopefully the forwards will be able to set more of a platform for the halves and back line. The kicks on the last should also improve.

Or you could argue he's only turned up when the rest of the team has played well and maybe he should be dropped? Any halfback can look good when all's well - quality ones drag their side up.

I wonder when Furner left if they considered asking Tony Smith to step in if only to end of season ?

Garbutts been one of the best props in superleague since he got here, no suprise he's doing great for KR, always plenty of hitups and good meters per carry, he was class last night. I like Ava but none of our props seem to take many hit ups, I dont know if its by design or because we'v got headless chickens in our spine, or if they arnt putting there hand up, but we rarly have more than one prop in double figures in hit ups. For me, both starting props should be well into double figures more often than not.

Ok put another way, name a position where leeds are stronger than KR? Best I can come up with is 13, though his discipline was a real let down last night.

For me the game was lost through poor mental preparation and discipline in the first 20 minutes.

We sorted it out towards the end of the first half, but lapsed again in the second. HKR wanted it more than us and TS managed to get their players to channel this in a positive direction, whereas Leeds' indiscipline and panic play stopped us building any pressure.

For these reasons I don't think there's much point in blaming individuals. That said I'm worried about Newman - he hasn't shown us much in attack since Watkins left and is being exposed in defence. Sure he's going to make mistakes as a kid but in this pressure relegation battle I hope his confidence isn't permanently damaged because we have no cover for this position.

He contacted KR to say he was interested in getting back into RL, so I'm sure he did the same with Leeds.

Sloppy and soft at the start of each half, a complete lack of discipline, poor poor kicking game, players charging in defensively to make hits instead of just staying in position.

Terrible performance. Hopefully the team has taken 2 steps forward recently and one backwards last night before moving forward again starting next week.

Make the decision Agar,DROP Myler surely Mclelland cannot be any worse?

I know i’m a bit like a dog with a bone about this... but Peacock had firm ideas when he was our DoR. What somebody needs in that role is good ideas and clear understanding.

You win as a team, you lose as a team. Last night they were all shocking, terrible decisions from the coach down through the team. Why don't they realise that performances like this only increase pressure on the team.

Next week hopefully Hull will rest a few for the CC semi,