Went after Austin, ended up with Lolohea. How badly wrong can we get things?

Probably Gary Hetherington’s worst decision while at the club

Quote ="Sal Paradise"You point suggests these players are available and want to come and play for Leeds - perhaps neither Austin or Hastings wanted to play for Leeds? '" Hastings would have dropped everything to be signed by our DOR - he was practically begging Leeds to sign him: Quote I grew up watching Leeds and the likes of Danny McGuire, Kevin Sinfield and Rob Burrow – they were sort of the reason I started watching the Betfred Super League. “I was lucky enough to listen to a speech that Kevin Sinfield presented to the team while I was at Sydney Roosters and just the way he spoke made me realise just how highly respected he is over here and definitely in Australia, also.'" Quote And he has already been left starstruck after meeting Leeds director of rugby Kevin Sinfield, who he listened to intently in a speech while at Sydney Roosters, after helping demolish his side 38-22 on his debut. Hastings, who takes on Hull KR in Salford's first Qualifiers game on Friday, added: “I grew up watching him play – he’s held in very high regard in Australia, over here he’s one of, if not the greatest player to ever play. “I went up to him after the game and said, ‘I’ve got a lot of respect for you and it was an honour to play against a team you coached.’ I’ll keep learning from him.“I’ve always been erratic with my emotions and he told us how to control a game and all the hours he’d put into his body, I got a massive amount out of it. “I’ve spoken to a lot of people about players and Kevin Sinfield would be up there. To get praise of him, a bloke you put ‘Sir’ in front of, is one of the better moments I’ve had.”'" https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/6966623/ ... in-the-uk/ https://www.salfordreddevils.net/jackso ... ed-jersey/

Quote ="Sal Paradise"You point suggests these players are available and want to come and play for Leeds - perhaps neither Austin or Hastings wanted to play for Leeds? '" Hastings would have dropped everything to be signed by our DOR - he was practically begging Leeds to sign him: Quote I grew up watching Leeds and the likes of Danny McGuire, Kevin Sinfield and Rob Burrow – they were sort of the reason I started watching the Betfred Super League. “I was lucky enough to listen to a speech that Kevin Sinfield presented to the team while I was at Sydney Roosters and just the way he spoke made me realise just how highly respected he is over here and definitely in Australia, also.'" Quote And he has already been left starstruck after meeting Leeds director of rugby Kevin Sinfield, who he listened to intently in a speech while at Sydney Roosters, after helping demolish his side 38-22 on his debut. Hastings, who takes on Hull KR in Salford's first Qualifiers game on Friday, added: “I grew up watching him play – he’s held in very high regard in Australia, over here he’s one of, if not the greatest player to ever play. “I went up to him after the game and said, ‘I’ve got a lot of respect for you and it was an honour to play against a team you coached.’ I’ll keep learning from him.“I’ve always been erratic with my emotions and he told us how to control a game and all the hours he’d put into his body, I got a massive amount out of it. “I’ve spoken to a lot of people about players and Kevin Sinfield would be up there. To get praise of him, a bloke you put ‘Sir’ in front of, is one of the better moments I’ve had.”'" https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/6966623/ ... in-the-uk/ https://www.salfordreddevils.net/jackso ... ed-jersey/

Sneaky feeling we may sign him,possibly after we play them(and doubtless lose) next!

Might transform the side if it came off. I'll wait and see if owt actually happens though.

Reports coming in that we are once again playing like a set of badly coached no hopers!Sorry Dave enough is enough!

Agreed

If it's the same this time next season i would agree but i think it's right to back him and give him a chance to have a full pre season get his own guys in and weed out the garbage. We have a generally poor squad and he was lumbered with it.

He's not going anywhere.

"If it's the same next season" good lord... I agree completely thr squad ain't great but I'm sorry it should be doing better than 2nd bottom. Fact.

I agree with you at the moment. Surely an NRL experienced coach can’t be behind our woeful performances, it’s got to be the poor quality players. I hate to see a coach sacked tbh...

Sarcy

Results and performances are pretty poor. The squad is also pretty poor. I think further will stay at the club whilst we are not in serious danger of relegation.

We are close, but with over half a season to go have lots of opportunity to improve. It's not that we're great, just London are very poor, are in a bad run, and don't have the resources that Leeds do.

If we swap places and are still bottom with ten games to go, panic may set in and a shirt term motivator in the John kear mould may have to come in.

Assuming we stay up, a bad season is better long term than a reasonable one. Finishing 11th skies that there is still lots of work to be done and lots of dead wood to remove. The club shouldn't be shirking the hard decisions needed for next season. I'd redirect that about now we start taking about renewals. I can't imagine many conversations happening at the moment

Disagree. The squad is better than bottom 2. Sorry but it is. We have spent big money on 3 or 4 signings. Should be doing better

The squad is e, it’s about where it should be out of the 4 “big signings 2 of which are amongst our best players. Tui is crap and Ava who knows yet. I don’t think furner is the right man for the job but also the squad is crap

Players have to take the blame for attitude effort & the sheer will to defend.
Furner is still culpable for selections tactics etc & Sinfield/GH culpable for recruitment & retentions.
Its a complete cluster at the moment & there's too many to blame. A cull is needed aswell at least 2 additions to the FT 1st team Coaching staff.

The spine of the team is poor. Fullback stand off and scrum half are all pretty poor to be honest. Suppose walker has time on his side but for me I think he is over rated.

Clueless in defence.
Furner hasn't a clue how to fix this problem.
Give him a one way ticket back to Oz

It’s difficult to judge Furner based on the glaring mental weaknesses we have in the squad as well as the lack of playing ability. He can’t be held responsible for the lack of cutting edge of Watkins for example, who as well as being Captain is our go to back to come up with some magic.

Our spine is very poor, and the forwards aren’t great, but it’s the lack of mental strength that’s doing for us most of all because as soon as there is any pressure on this group they fold.

Very very few coaches could turn this bunch into even mid table whilst they have all the mental fortitude of sloppy custard...

Why won't he play Golding at Full back? He's great defensively

I don’t really rate any fullback options

It’s all opinions but for mine golding was always a yard too late getting anywhere. He is on the outer and will be surprised if that changes.

A few years ago he was the next big thing after he looked a cut above v Aussie schoolboys at Leigh, James Graham gave him mom and was singing his praises, a lesson that we may still get little from the current crop in the academy.

He can’t be any worse than what we have now, at least give him a game, it would be ironic if Furner goes and the next coach gave Golding a chance, you can’t keep playing the same players and expect them to become good defensively because it ain’t going to happen with this team , if you can’t change the coach at least try some new bodies in the team

Furner can and should be held responsible for defensive attitude and structure. Moving forward half our pack has been signed under his watch. There's also no reason to keep picking older players who are rubbish where there are kids available who frankly can't do worse.

He's more stuck in the backs, especially halfback where most of his choices are poor. Without control its hard to be competitive with even the most basic game plan. Personally I'd look at our Academy halves and pick one with a single remit - managing sets and kicking. Not to try to set up tries or be amazing, but to just bring control. McLelland may not be a star yet but in that regard surely he's worth a punt?

McLelland is nowhere near ready to play 1st team yet in my opinion. I understand he cant do any worse but in truth he can and hes not ready to be pushed thru

We need a top class half or halves cos what we have at the moment is the best pairing but going forward they are nowhere near the required standard for Leeds.