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| Quote ="batleyrhino"I don’t want him to go, I think if he can learn and change then there’s a very intelligent coach there, but he needs to change things it doesn’t work with this set of players.'"
do you think he tells his reserve full back and wingers to drop the ball?
do you think its a coincidence that in the 2nd half we were the team on top? conditions played a massive part in that game
as did us missing our FB, and Handley, and Fusitua for most of the match
Oledzki accidently knees the ball out from Hooley on our line - try
Olpherts messes up a bunch of kicks, which lead to tries
if you think he's telling them to not fly up like saints then fair enough, but i dont see how you think Rohan Smith lost us the game
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| Garbage, some absolute shocking performances.
Embarrassing stuff
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| Was anyone all that surprised?
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| Quote ="Clearwing"Was anyone all that surprised?'"
When i got here saw the weather then saw Abdul on the team sheet - no.
Are the Rohan Smith outers out in force on here?
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| Quote ="Neruda"do you think he tells his reserve full back and wingers to drop the ball?
do you think its a coincidence that in the 2nd half we were the team on top? conditions played a massive part in that game
as did us missing our FB, and Handley, and Fusitua for most of the match
Oledzki accidently knees the ball out from Hooley on our line - try
Olpherts messes up a bunch of kicks, which lead to tries
if you think he's telling them to not fly up like saints then fair enough, but i dont see how you think Rohan Smith lost us the game'"
Agreed
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| Quote ="RonnieGinger"Why did we go with a short kicking game whilst playing against that sort of wind and rain. That's just brain dead.'"
Because we were well behind at that point
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| First of all Olpherts has never been any good and whilst Tindall isn`t perfect he`s a much better choice.
Lisone needs to start putting some effort in.
Hooley I said at the start of the season is poor in defence.
Roberts again one for the future but nowhere near good enough.
But it seems Smith is picking players he likes and not on form.
All said 4 of our back 5 out today including Fusitua there.
Forwards far too soft and let an average team beat us again like Hull and Cas before them.
Lewis reffed the game well and not sure what made Sangare get so wound up with him!
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| Quote ="christopher"When i got here saw the weather then saw Abdul on the team sheet - no.
Are the Rohan Smith outers out in force on here?'"
we've lost by 8 points, in a monsoon, while missing the majority of our outside backs, to a decent Hull KR side
of course they are
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| Quote ="RAPIDO"Yeah mate one we knew was not very good the other just doesn't want to play.'"
He got injured, what do you want him to do, carry on?
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| Quote ="Neruda"do you think he tells his reserve full back and wingers to drop the ball?
do you think its a coincidence that in the 2nd half we were the team on top? conditions played a massive part in that game
as did us missing our FB, and Handley, and Fusitua for most of the match
Oledzki accidently knees the ball out from Hooley on our line - try
Olpherts messes up a bunch of kicks, which lead to tries
if you think he's telling them to not fly up like saints then fair enough, but i dont see how you think Rohan Smith lost us the game'"
I didn’t say Rohan Smith lost us the game? I think the way he’s asking us to play, with no line speed or aggression in defence, which plays into the hands of a great kicker like Abdull, makes a difficult night harder. We are not capable of holding the ball (almost all season) yet our game plan is to throw it around all the time, which just makes things harder. Our players are not that good (haven’t been for almost 10 years now) so we need to play a game that minimises their weaknesses and maximises their strengths. I don’t see us doing that this season.
I’ll say it again, I don’t want him to leave, I want him to change. I also want the players to stop dropping the ball, giving away penalties and missing tackles. The two things are not mutually exclusive.
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| Quote ="Neruda"we've lost by 8 points, in a monsoon, while missing the majority of our outside backs, to a decent Hull KR side
of course they are'"
Don't forget dropped balls are his fault....
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| Quote ="christopher"Because we were well behind at that point'"
We went for a short drop out at 0 - 0
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| Quote ="The Magic Rat"We went for a short drop out at 0 - 0'"
It wasn’t a traditional short kick off, did you watch it on TV?
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| I think we’re looking for excuses a touch here. We haven’t produced a performance all season that gives me any confidence. We’d had a couple of decent spells. But all took often have we been clueless and soft. How exactly are we been coached to play? Because I can’t tell you - it’s reckless, unorganised chaos that every now and again produces a few points. All too often we are trying to cheat the game and take short cuts
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| Quote ="christopher"Because we were well behind at that point'"
No. We weren't.
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| Quote ="The Magic Rat"We went for a short drop out at 0 - 0'"
It wasn’t a traditional short kick off, did you watch it on TV?
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| Quote ="JG280738"I think we’re looking for excuses a touch here. We haven’t produced a performance all season that gives me any confidence. We’d had a couple of decent spells. But all took often have we been clueless and soft. How exactly are we been coached to play? Because I can’t tell you - it’s reckless, unorganised chaos that every now and again produces a few points. All too often we are trying to cheat the game and take short cuts'"
what do you mean?
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| Quote ="christopher"It wasn’t a traditional short kick off, did you watch it on TV?'"
I did.
Austin went for touch around the 10m line and missed, leaving us under pressure. It was a match crying out for game management and playing for field position from the halves and ours were poor. It's hard when you keep losing possession and letting the opposition go the length of the field in 6 tackles though, granted.
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| Quote ="JG280738"I think we’re looking for excuses a touch here. We haven’t produced a performance all season that gives me any confidence. We’d had a couple of decent spells. But all took often have we been clueless and soft. How exactly are we been coached to play? Because I can’t tell you - it’s reckless, unorganised chaos that every now and again produces a few points. All too often we are trying to cheat the game and take short cuts'"
Spot on mate
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| I’m not too surprised or despondent about that one. Conditions were terrible and we are too many troops down in the back 5 when they needed to be skilful.
Thought our pack was ok again, although Tet had very little impact tighter in again and Mik needs game time.
I’ve been impressed with McDonnell.
We missed McDonald tonight he has been our main strike in the backs.
Re FB although I want us to replace Myler he was missed tonight, we needed to skill at the back and short passing into the line on attack. Conditions too poor to really judge Hooley but yes, NRL fullback incoming for me please.
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| Quote ="christopher"He got injured, what do you want him to do, carry on?'"
Biggest softy to put on a Leeds shirt in quite some time.
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| Don't get the weather beating us excuse as it was the same for both sides. Need line speed. Need aggression. Need to stop the stupid errors. The first 2 problems come down to the coach I'm afraid. I'm all for doing things differently but when it doesn't work you change the tactic and move on
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| Quote ="Neruda"what do you mean?'"
Think he means poor tactics and team selection.
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| Quote ="ALAW"Don't get the weather beating us excuse as it was the same for both sides. Need line speed. Need aggression. Need to stop the stupid errors. The first 2 problems come down to the coach I'm afraid. I'm all for doing things differently but when it doesn't work you change the tactic and move on'"
Agree but that weather makes every high ball a lottery and both sides really struggled with it on the deck too.
We did allow too much field position though which made us more exposed to the luck of the bounce.
It wasn’t as bad a performance as some are making out: literally swap Olpherts (I am just not a fan) and Hooley for Handley and Myler I reckon we win that game or it’s very close.
Again for Austin fans; tonight is yet another example of why we should let him go. He is inconsistent: he was at Warrington and he is for us too.
Not sure why Roberts gets in ahead of Tindall although he took his try well.
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| Quote ="Neruda"what do you mean?'"
Not winning the arm wrestle playing when we’ve not earnt the right
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