How he's said that's an improvement I don't know. The only difference was playing a less potent side. This week he's changed his tune off a similarly bad performance.

Absolute garbage, as bad an attacking performance as i can remember seeing, could of played all night and not scored. Long and rest of the coaching staff need to buck there ideas up sharp, our attacking structure is woeful, so easy to defend its laughable.

As chris says, cant even be d going into individual performances, would be here all night, just woeful.

Rubbish end to a rubbish day

Was always going to be a tough start, but this seems much more concerning than most would have imagined. Really poor attacking performance again, how can a team with pace in the back line look so unthreatening from distance?

Also must be said that Dwyer’s distribution from dummy half is atrocious, especially in the final 20 minutes. I think in our penultimate set he put every pass 2 meters behind the first receiver. I’ve seen half time teams with better passing accuracy…

The positive is that Broadbent absolutely must play in place of Briscoe next week. I don’t recall ever having a Centre for Leeds that is so out of position in the role that I’m praying he doesn’t pass.

We should get Newman and Fuzzy back next week but that does nothing for forwards who must come out firing next week. 0/4 would be a very big hole to get out of.

It’s pretty dire. Too many players who are not good enough. Agar not good enough we look like a very poorly coached team.
We miss myler at full back. Walker for me doesn’t have blistering speed or a passing game, too many poor players to mention

I'd be very surprised if he drops briscoe for broadbent

I don't think we have any genuine pace in the back line, and none of the backs seem to be able to pick a line or run on to the ball, they're too stationery around the ball.

In which case Agar is part of the problem not the solution.

Attack was woeful and Sezer again not doing what he was brought into do.
Smith and Thompson along with Gannon the only ones with any sort of credit from that game.

Need 2 centres and more than one prop.

Briscoe was useless, butchered the chance to put tindall down the wing on 46 mins, did absolutely everything you would want your centre to do wrong, didnt draw his man, didnt even get his attention, then through a high rubbish pass to tindall, the defender just drifted off briscoe and crunched tindall...Awful centre play

I'm starting to think he is anyway.

Nobody calling a knee jerk yet or after very similar performances last year is everyone fearing the same?

I don't know how anyone can argue Agar isn't front and centre a large part of the problem. A lot of the squad is his. All of the selections are his. There's no sense of dynamism at all, and it just looks like a plodding coach picking fellow plodders to play a nothing style.

I still think it’s a bit knee jerk, we have got the players, its a combination of injuries and lack of confidence IMO. We had a few chances to win that game and we constantly dropped the ball or took a poor option.

I thought Sezer was a lot better than last week.

I tell you what though, ive not had a drink for over two years and im very tempted to go home warm up and open that bottle of Brandy ive got stashed, today has been the pits.

No excuse for that performance. Absolutely miles off where we need to be. That was an awful performance.

Cant single anyone out for praise or criticism. The whole team has to get it together quickly cos that was unacceptable.

I don't think the injuries can excuse that level of abject performance. This week was no better than last. Cats were missing 4 of their pack.

My feelings on Agar is the last year there was mitigation from many factors, this year he's had a preseason with a full squad and the side available should produce way better than that. Looks all very 2021 to me.

We did reach the semi finals in 2021 though, we are only 3 games in, a lot can change, but it needs to start next week

We 'reached the semi finals' from 5th. We beat a Wigan side praying for the season to end and in our first proper test Sts wiped the floor with us. This year we are supposed to be better - new halfbacks, fewer injuries and a full off season. Never mind competing with Sts, we look likely to be in another season where our peers are Wakefield, Toulouse and co.

Tough to take that one, considering they lost a forward for a HIA aswell as having quite a number missing for the game. An opportunity missed for sure. If agar is going to pick players out he needs to look at Sezer this week as that was very poor from him, I would genuinely be looking at bringing Sinfield in next week.

Im not sure about fewer injuries, we’ve had a mare with them so far.

As i say its round 3, if were languishing at the bottom end half way through the season ill be as concerned as anyone, im not overly concerned yet, i am however very very disappointed

Out attack does look clunky reminded me a bit of 2018/19 season tonight we looked clueless in opp 20 and hoped for a bit of magic from someone like Austin. I think Agar has too bite the bullet now we need too change our attack formation and see if anything changes I hope next week we have Fusitu'a & Newman back and I'd go for.

1. Fusitu'a (Walker has been steady away but I think he kills our attack & with Myler out I don't wanna over play him especially after last couple of seasons)
2. Tindall
3. Newman
4. Broadbent
5. Handley
6. Austin
7. Sezer
8. Oledzki
9. Leeming
10. Tetevano
11. Sutcliffe
12. Gannon
13. Smith

Subs
Dwyer
Prior
Thompson
Donaldson

I think Fusitu'a would add strike at full back, he probably doesn't have a passing game but neither does Walker and Fusitu'a coming out the back of a shape in the opp 20 would be more dangerous imo. He's a very big man too stop out wide. Tindall has done well for me and I like how he plays he's pretty safe under kicks and quick and a decent weapon too have on wing if he has a decent Centre. Newman we know what he brings just need him fit. Sutcliffe made couple of breaks tonight but some poor errors as well Broadbent deserves a shot and with Mellor getting a bad knock we could use Sutcliffe in Second row with Bentley still banned & Martin in Oz.

Im not sure bringing a teenager who hasn’t played first grade into a team lacking confidence will do anyone any good.

We have new halfbacks, and lost a pivot, ot mightvtake a few games for them to click.

Weve not hot the luxury of being able to drop s load of players

Froze my ass for two weeks and all for nothing. Total cr*p tonight. I know we are missing quality players, but what is clear at the moment is that there is a really big drop off in terms of replacements. I don't think I can take another week of Briscoe & Sutty in the centres. For those old enough to recall they both have the attacking threat of Dave Heslewood in his prime.

Those replacements keep getting re-signed and then picked at the drop of the hat. Meanwhile the likes of Broadbent, who did a great job for a tyro last year, sits on the sidelines.

I really think a lot of the problem with Agar is he is so risk averse in selections and gameplans. There's no sense of adventure or fight, and when things go wrong the team collectively curls up in a ball with everyone looking for someone else to sort things out rather than take responsibility themselves.

I've no doubt our attack will look a lot better with Fusitu'a and Newman back, Bentley will help etc. But shouldn't we expect more from the 17 selected than that?