He’s had 2 games FFS, one in a game where we were beaten in every aspect of the game.

Fully agreed, how can anyone expect a kid with a handful of games under his belt lead the team around the park like a seasoned pro. It’s not the kids that are letting us down...

what;s he done to write himself in....

Bit harsh.He's come into team playing crap.He needs more games.

Bielsa got Leeds to 21st. Agar wont take us that low.

Absolutely 100% spot on.

McClelland is way down the list for any criticism. I wish though that Barrie Mc could pronounce his name, NOT MCLENNAN BARRIE!

Thought we competed well for large parts...But the individual errors kill us time and time again, its unbelievable how many basic mistakes this side makes. Cuthbertson alone with 3 howlers to flatten any momentum we had after scoring to go within one score.

Yep especially at half needs a run of games to judge him, he was better than last week and needs time to build combinations etc, thought he was well down the list of those to criticise and the alternative is lui who is unfit, let’s give him a chance

Not quite how it works.

Start with the front row, once that’s set then you have something to build from. It’s no coincidence that Saints are usually up there as they have the best front row, and that gets the team going forward.

I wrote him off before these 2 games to be fair. He's only in because Lui's injured. Moon did ok as a running half and I think Dwyer could do that. At least he offers a threat. McLelland doesn't. He might look satisfactory against Salford, but that's it. He was signed as a project and isn't cutting it.

Unbelievable. Absolutely unbelievable.

So you wrote him off even before he had played 2 full games in SL.

That’s even worse.

There must be something up with him

Could not agree more.

McLelland played v Dulls when they knocked us out of the cup. He scored a 14th min try and then went AWOL. You don't send people you want to Featherstone. He's playing now because they've had nobody else. Even Sutcliffe would be a better option.

Our problems are much deeper than a rookie HB with a couple of SL games on his CV.
The squad lacks Quality ,direction & depth
Our inability to do the basics is ridiculous as is our poor decision making.
Off the Pitch Agar & his assistents (Sinfields mates) aren't good enough & never will be.

So why did we send Cameron Smith, Alex Sutcliffe etc etc If we didn’t want them, don’t talk rubbish

We’ve been struggling in that dept since Kylie and JP finished and it’s no coincidence we’ve seen a downturn during that period. The pack as you quite rightly alluding to are absolutely key

Oledski seems to be making progress but I agree we’re Definitely lacking in the Front row

Yep fully agree

We need a couple of big forwards and a good winger, try Luke Briscoe in the 2nd row he offers some good go forward. Get these boys fit, their conditioning looks way off and bring someone with some coaching nous in. Webster for Carr was a big loss for us.

HB is a specialised position, not just a pack member, and Cam Smith was pants until this season. Alex Sutcliffe bulked up to contest for a 2nd row spot, because he wasn't getting a look in the centres.

HB is a specialised position???? You just said play Dwyer there a few posts ago.

What was your thoughts on Sir Kev and Maggsy after a few SL games out of interest?

Do you think maybe Cam has improved cos hes still a young lad but hes now got a few games under his belt and getting more used to SL????