Promotion and relagation should have stayed scrapped the game is not sustainable to support it, there I see a reason NRL don't have it and have a considerably better league. P&R does nothing but hold the game back in this country. The fact the games biggest most valuable club are at risk, when they should be rebuilding without the threat over them is ludicrous.

It proves to people how it forces a club to focus solely on very short term decisions. The signings of Thompson, Crosby, Albert etc would not have happened if there wasn’t the threat of relegation and Leeds could have focussed on the medium to long term. A club like Leeds can manage this for a season or 2 but you can see how detrimental an impact it has on smaller clubs.
A licensed league gives you the opportunity to rebuild without panicking. P&R forced short term, panicked decisions and the league isn’t big enough to sustain that without damage to the game.

If we finish bottom and get relegated I would be devastated, but I would still carry on,but if the rules are changed to keep us up I dont think I could carry on . What a shocking state we are in though

I have a serious question. Would relegation be that bad a thing? I'm from Edinburgh and when my football team got relegated it meant we stripped back, got rid of all our dead wood and in the end it galvanised the whole club from top to bottom. Would relegation have the same effect on the Rhinos or would it be a catastrophe? Be interested to know the thoughts of fans who go every week, spend hard earned cash following the team who deserve better.

That's sport surely? If Leeds finish bottom, which I still think we wont, bit if we do we deserve to get relegated as with any team.

To say were a prized assest is irrelevant. Christ I go to games in Lancashire on Friday nights and the fans we take across for a big club is embarrassing. We must have took 400 to Wigan earlier in the season. If you think Super League would be stumped without our away support you are kidding yourself.

As I say though I still don't see us finishing bottom.

It’s not the away support Marty, far from it, although I think you are wrong on that. It’s the sponsorship for the game and tv. Even when poop as us, we are still always chosen for tv, there is a reason for that. And no way can this new plan the game as going forward cope without it’s biggest club.

It would be bad, but it would be 1 year in the Championship and as you say a chance to release a lot of the deadwood.

Super League will survive with or without us. If we finish bottom we deserve to relegated just as any other team does.

Let's get behind the team tho instead of flapping about relegation. Sure there will be thousands of Leeds fans at Anfield supporting the team.

Not sure what will happen if we finish bottom, but im certain R Elstone will be having nightmares at the prospect. The new TV deal will be harder to sell without Leeds in it.

These mortgage repayments will have been budgeted for ,but surely not for championship Rugby though .I wonder if the club could go into financial difficulties, I hope not

Agree completely. The game cant sustain it financially.

Meanwhile over in Barcelona can be heard the sound of weeping , wailing and gnashing of teeth.

I’ve said for years, the only sensible way to grow the game is via franchising, not P&R. When a team is good enough (not just on the pitch), and they are sustainable, then they should be granted a franchise.

We don’t need to exclude a club to bring another one in...

Correct

Why?

Have a look on the Wigan board, that will through some light on the subject.

League to expand to 14 with no relegation this season. That's my only hope now for Leeds to stay up.

No point crying about P&R now that your team have the very real threat of it happening to you. It's here, it's happening and you really wouldn't give it toss if it was anybody else but you lot down there.

I think your wrong there, I actually would. The game is horrendous these days. The last thing it needs is losing it’s big clubs. And I actually include Hull KR in that. There is clubs in super league, who to be frank bring nothing. You can’t cope without those that do.

That’s simply not true, I don’t think you’ll find many posters on here that wanted the Bulls to go down, SL cannot afford to lose its best supported club, or any of the high profile clubs.

If they had known London would have beaten Toronto in last seasons ns final I think the best thing for SL would have been to say no relegation friends m SL and top two from the championship go up.

SL shouldn’t have relegation or promotion but it has to because for some reason british sports fans think this is the norm.

London picking up a win at wakey, pressure is really on this shower of poop.

I agree actually. If Leeds finish bottom and Super League/RFL change the rules to keep us up it would do more damage to the integrity of the sport than Leeds going down. It would be scandalous.

When Wigan cheated to stay up everyone was outraged there was no "it's good for the game that Wigan stay up" talk then.

If after 29 rounds we finish bottom we deserve to be Championship bound. In my gut I still see London going down however I wouldn't be surprised late in the year to see a few reserve teams turn out against them from clubs who have nothing to lose and have suffered at our hands over the last 15 years.

We simply need to get behind the club and team and hope we get out of this situation asap.

I'm just glad there's no middle 8's. We'd be shafted!

We're still shafted. Just a different kind of shafted.

This is absolutely correct. At the time I was saying it would be great for the Championship to have Wigan playing in it. It would be a disaster if we go down, but the Leeds Bradford derby would be back, and we owe them one after last week.


London play Wakefield and Castleford in their last 5 games. The pair would suffer financially without Leeds, as they get their biggest gate of the season playing us, they will be trying to keep us up for that reason.

London also play us and Hull kr in those last 5 games, if things are still this close they will be some tense games.

In fact looking at their remaining games London play both us and Hull kr twice, that’s 8 points that has to be shared between the bottom clubs. They are absolutely crucial games, starting with the magic fixture next week.