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| Quote ="batleyrhino"Sorry I forgot we are watching tiddlywinks not a full bloodied physical sport. Ask Ian Roberts if he would have a problem with Zak, I'd value his opinion a damn sight more than any of the tools that will post inflammatory crap on here tonight.'"
It's the world we live in. When you are a highly paid professional who is in a position of influence as pro sportsmen are, there isn't any room for any kind of homophobia, racism or sexual deviance. Everyone knows it's not a particularly heinous crime, but it's something he's got to grow up and move past.
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"Don't think you are really in any position to comment on him as human being.'"
Why is that dear? I don't remember coming across you before, what makes you think I'm not human?
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| If he'd been talking to Ryan Bailey, then no issue
He did say it, but personally its hardly the crime of the century
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Why is that dear?
I don't remember coming across you before, what makes you think I'm not human?'"
Life isn't black and white.
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| He's done nothing wrong, there is nothing to move beyond. Normally I respect your postings but you are looking for something that isn't there. I know the kid, he's not homophobic.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"In that context though, it clearly is. When two men confront each other in an aggressive context like that, the only meaning you can get from that is a reference to his sexuality.'"
Utter nonsense. There are plenty of other ways to interpret it. I used to do it on the pitch from time to time. In much the same way as saying "aw, I love you too" in mockery of somebody's aggressive carrying on. The idea that I would blow the kiss, but it would suggest that the other party was gay seems a bit illogical to me.
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| The Yellow Giraffe blatant agenda against Hardaker
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| Quote ="El Diablo"Utter nonsense. There are plenty of other ways to interpret it. I used to do it on the pitch from time to time. In much the same way as saying "aw, I love you too" in mockery of somebody's aggressive carrying on. The idea that I would blow the kiss, but it would suggest that the other party was gay seems a bit illogical to me.'"
Possibly. One could easily argue I'm the homophobe for interpreting it that way. Good job I'm not a celebrity doing it in front of 200,000 people, of which 198,000 of them probably hate me.
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| Whatever your view on the severity of his actions, he deserves a ban for being possibly the most stupid man on earth for seemingly (certainly looked pretty clear to me) following up a blown kiss with another homophobic insult on live TV after his recent ban and grovelling statement.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Possibly. One could easily argue I'm the homophobe for interpreting it that way. Good job I'm not a celebrity doing it in front of 200,000 people, of which 198,000 of them probably hate me.'"
I'd rather not get that philosophical tonight.
I'd also rather leave determining what was said to those who heard it.
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| The one thing that's clear to me after the response to Zak blowing a kiss at the Saints player is the complete and utter over reaction of certain posters who are terrified he will stop them from winning their only silverware in years should he play against them again this season. Naughty Zak how dare you...
Grow up boys it's a big boys game.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"He's done nothing wrong, there is nothing to move beyond. Normally I respect your postings but you are looking for something that isn't there. I know the kid, he's not homophobic.'"
He may well not be, I don't know him like you. I just think he needs to think things through a little more, if you don't do anything that people could warp one way or the other you can't get in trouble. Do things like he did tonight and he lays himself open for it.
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| Quote ="MattyLeeds"The Yellow Giraffe blatant agenda against Hardaker'"
Haha. I love this. Several fans comment on it and you single me out.
Hardaker is a great player but he clearly has occasional lapses in concentration. He has made a silly comment tonight that may or may not get get him in bother. I personally think it should. We don't have to agree but nor do we need to be immature and argumentative about it.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"It's the world we live in. When you are a highly paid professional who is in a position of influence as pro sportsmen are, there isn't any room for any kind of homophobia, racism or sexual deviance. Everyone knows it's not a particularly heinous crime, but it's something he's got to grow up and move past.'"
Help please!
Now I may be a bit slow, but can somebody please explain to me why, as stated above, is a professional sportsman in a position of influence, who is it he is influencing, and what bearing does his salary have on it all?
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| You are right we don't. You are wrong, we don't have to argue.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Whatever your view on the severity of his actions, he deserves a ban for being possibly the most stupid man on earth for seemingly (certainly looked pretty clear to me) following up a blown kiss with another homophobic insult on live TV after his recent ban and grovelling statement.'"
I notice you made a swift backtracking edit there. I genuinely thought he said pr!ck which certainly isn't homophobic.
I'm also 100% positive that a Leigh player called Zak a faggo on live tv when he scored the winning try in our cup game... Zak just laughed it off but oddly there was no witch hunt on rlfans.
Perhaps just maybe your opinion of Zak/the witch hunts on here are clouding your interpretation
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"Haha. I love this. Several fans comment on it and you single me out.
Hardaker is a great player but he clearly has occasional lapses in concentration. He has made a silly comment tonight that may or may not get get him in bother. I personally think it should. We don't have to agree but nor do we need to be immature and argumentative about it.'"
I bet you still haven't brought me a cake though have you?
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| Quote ="Omar Little"I notice you made a swift backtracking edit there. I genuinely thought he said pr!ck which certainly isn't homophobic.
I'm also 100% positive that a Leigh player called Zak a faggo on live tv when he scored the see winning try in our cup game... Zak just laughed it off but oddly there was no witch hunt on rlfans.
Perhaps just maybe your opinion of Zak/the witch hunts on here are clouding your interpretation'"
Nah, what's clouding my judgement is the fact he has previous for homophobic abuse. Simple really
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| Seriously, can we just discuss RL? Who gives a feck what players say to each other on the field.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"I bet you still haven't brought me a cake though have you?'"
Haha not yet mate. Got my feet up in Jamaica still. I'll drop a slice or two off when I'm next in the area.
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| Quote ="Hacked Off"Help please!
Now I may be a bit slow, but can somebody please explain to me why, as stated above, is a professional sportsman in a position of influence, who is it he is influencing, and what bearing does his salary have on it all?'"
Anybody..........no.....Ok Saddened surely you could help me understand.
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| Bravo. Good game tonight, both teams will get plenty out of it and I am seriously fancying our chances of winning it at another rainy night in Manchester...
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"Haha not yet mate. Got my feet up in Jamaica still. I'll drop a slice or two off when I'm next in the area.
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You shouldn't be posting on here if you're in jamaica.
I won't allow it.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"Bravo. Good game tonight, both teams will get plenty out of it and I am seriously fancying our chances of winning it at another rainy night in Manchester...'"
looks like we will be doing it from 5/6th if we are =/
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"You shouldn't be posting on here if you're in jamaica.
I won't allow it.
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Haha. Good job my new wife is a big rugby fan (Wigan season ticket holder would you believe!?). She didn't mind nipping back the room at 2pm to watch the game. Got it live on Fox Soccer Plus. As it happens it is pis$ing it down for the time being so enjoying the free wifi and a beer on the balcony!
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